Unless an alternative is provided for the same output and then forced to implement it nothing will really change if that meat production is considered essential.
If possible we need more healthy and still natural plant-based substitutes, too.
Why are Americans so obsessed with meat and plant-based substitutes? I remember some Americanised kids in 5th grade bullying me for eating whole vegetables, which in hindsight was bizarre.
Don't assume everyone online is from the USA. An that kid was simply an asshole that had parents that didn't teach to eat vegetable.
Meat is a major part of the diet of a huge amount of humans, and has been for a long time by now. To assume only the USA consumes large quantities of meat it is simply absurd. I can speak for my own country having cold cuts has a huge part of its food culture.
Well America ≠ USA, but I do admit that I initially had North Americans in mind.
I was talking about a different type of meat obsession, not culture. It's the one where a population can't imagine eating whole vegetables at all.
That's not really a thing. They are everywhere in the world. Many people just don't eat veggies from pure disdain to simply not thinking about them. This is more of a parenting and/or education problem.
Yep, there is not much way around the fact that meat production and consumption must go down substantially to reduce disease risk. More intensive animal agriculture is worse for reasons like antibiotic overuse. Less intensive animal agriculture substantially raises land use which means more deforestation and more human contact with wildlife and higher disease. See the infectious disease trap of animal agriculture
The research comparing plant-based meats to animal-based meats generally has found plant-based meats to come out ahead health wise, though a whole food plant-based diet is even better
The singular products need to be checked. If consumption of plant-based meat would increase there is a non-zero chance of usage of lesser quality ingredients or the seeking of new additives to compete and produce more while minimizing cost, and then we would be at the starting point.
We at least wouldn't be at the same starting point since regardless of what happens, we'd still be with much lower environmental impact, zoonetic disease risk for society at large, number of animals in factory farms, etc.
Plant-based foods have a significantly smaller footprint on the environment than animal-based foods. Even the least sustainable vegetables and cereals cause less environmental harm than the lowest impact meat and dairy products
this is just warmed-over poore-nemecek 2018, and suffers from all the same bad methodology
It's one of the reasons I've reduced my animal diet. That video a few years ago of pigs being fed stale bread that was ground up still in the packet putting plastic through the food. Fuck that noise.
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