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I just don’t feel comfortable building a robot army here, and then being ousted because of some asinine recommendations from ISS and Glass Lewis, who have no f**king clue. I mean those guys are corporate terrorists. Lemme explain the core problem here, so many of the passive funds vote along the lines of what ISS and Glass Lewis recommend. Now, they have made many terrible recommendations in the past that if those recommendations had been followed would have been extremely destructive to the future of the company. Now, If you’ve got passive funds that essentially defer responsibility for the vote to Glass Lewis and ISS, then you can have extremely disastrous consequences for a publicly traded company if too much of the publicly traded company is controlled by index funds. It’s de facto controlled by Glass Lewis and ISS. This is a fundamental problem for corporate governance, because they’re not voting along the lines that are actually good for shareholders. That’s the big issue, I mean, that’s what it comes down to. ISS Glass Lewis corporate terrorism. -Elon Musk, Tesla Q3 shareholder conference call, October 22, 2025

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

So, is this a request for help, a threat, or just a grift?

Perhaps he really is concerned about rogue AI Slaughterbots, and wants to avoid that horrible Terminator-style future? Nah.

Perhaps it's a veiled threat - "I got these rogue Slaughterbots who are straining to get out there and fuck up the world, unless you give me a trillion bucks."

Or maybe, there are no robots, or even viable plans to build them, and he just wants a trillion bucks.

It's probably #3, and he'll use the money to build the Slaughterbots, and then do #2.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 8 points 23 hours ago

Maybe you just shouldn't be building a robot army...

[-] Part4@infosec.pub 1 points 19 hours ago

If he builds a robot army I'd hate to see the war. Optimus is barely past the 'dancer in a skinsuit' stage.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 19 hours ago

*pushes the front one and they all fall down*

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago

I fucking hate this guy got off the hook. He fell out of the media so fast it makes me sick to think how complete the ruling class's power is.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 2 points 20 hours ago

Just one more leverage bro

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Why this people never get cancer or horrible accidents?

[-] abbiistabbii 60 points 1 day ago

hey errr maybe the richest man in the world with nazi views should not have a robot army to begin with?

[-] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Any day now Tesla is gonna be renamed Hyperion

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fortunately he isn't going to build a robot army. His cars can barely follow the road so I can't imagine his robots would present much in the way of of a threat, except quite possibly in the extent that they would stand on your foot although even then they'd probably fall over.

There has never been another individual who's ability and ego are so at odds

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Why do they even need musk? It's not like he is lead engineer or chief of design.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Marketing and fund raising. Doesn't matter how much you, well we, hate him he's still genuinely excellent at it. Sure it's absolutely destructive to... literally everything except his bank account, but it works. Very annoying.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

But is he actually particularly stand out at that or is he just leveraging his pre-existing family wealth and connections to do so? In another universe a lot of these people are deadend used car salesman types that no one takes seriously.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

just leveraging his pre-existing family wealth and connections to do so?

Oh he is absolutely pulling himself up from his bootstraps, his are just made out of emeralds.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I just don’t feel comfortable building a robot army here, and then being ousted

Why would you ever have any control whatsoever in the first place? Do other arms manufacturers have a control for their missiles?

[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 2 days ago

But I was told that rich people like musk and Trump weren't swayed by money because they had enough... 😂

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 23 points 2 days ago

Sociopathic Oligarchs have a serious form of OCD/ Hoarding Disorder, that makes them crave even more money, no matter how much they have.

If they were hoarding cats, or rusty cars, or old refrigerators, or piles of scrap metal, etc., the authorities would intervene, and get them help for their mental illness.

But if they are hoarding money on a historically mind-blowing scale, they call them a successful businessman, and give them government grants and tax breaks.

[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

The kleptocracy in action.

[-] CandleTiger@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago

If they were hoarding cats, or rusty cars, or old refrigerators, or piles of scrap metal, etc., the authorities would intervene, and get them help for their mental illness.

This is a common misconception.

“The authorities” (USA viewpoint) are really extremely unlikely to intervene in any way at all with hoarding, and even more extremely unlikely to provide any kind of useful mental health intervention.

If the hoarding is causing a public safety hazard then the authorities may eventually start fining the hoarder until they do whatever is minimally required to clear the hazard.

Much much more likely, if the hoarder is renting, the landlord may evict them which is one of the many paths to homelessness.

But by far the most common outcome is that the authorities do nothing whatsoever to stop or help with harmful hoarding behavior.

In this way, crazy aunt Florence and Elon Musk are similar.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Perhaps, but it doesn't change the fact that these people have a very serious mental illness so massive that it literally affects the rest of the world. They must be dealt with properly, not encouraged to lean into their destructive mental illness by funding their follies with taxpayer money.

[-] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 days ago

This guy is so desperate to be called the first trillionaire, it's just really pathetic.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

putin already beat him there, by stealing russia economy.

[-] amos@mander.xyz 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I just want this guy to die. Oh, I will be so happy when it happens.

And all the other ones as well.

[-] cyrano@piefed.social 89 points 2 days ago

Me too Elon, I'm not feeling comfortable with you building a robot army

[-] HeartyOfGlass@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago

"Robot army" from the guy who gave us the Cybertruck? I'm not worried.

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[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 20 points 2 days ago

I had to check to see if I was eating an Onion. Turns out, Ol' ketamine fried Musky truly did say all of this.

[-] dan1101@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

I hope he doesn't start any trade federations and blockade Naboo.

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[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Fucking egomaniac.

[-] aarRJaay@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago

Man who can't buld fully self driving cars wants to build a f@*king robot army? I'll pass. How about give him NO money so he can't afford to build them in the first place.

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[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Brooks (Roomba, Baxter, MIT, etc) says it's sill not enough https://rodneybrooks.com/why-todays-humanoids-wont-learn-dexterity/

If you skim through his piece, at least watch the 2x 30s videos, really drive the point IMHO.

[-] tibi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

He has enough money to pay an actual army

Apparently we don’t even need to pay the actual army. We can just revoke their paychecks and force them to keep working anyways. Nothing can go wrong with that, right?

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 22 points 2 days ago

Elon Musk in charge of a robot army?

I've seen this movie sooo many times, and it never ends well.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

He needs? Go pick yourself up by your bootstraps. Somehow I don’t think he means $1T of his own money.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

So he's basically Justin Hammer at this point.

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago

Sounds like they are getting on with their plan of eradicating all but the 1%

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

A good chunk of shareholders deferring to public agencies that recommend based on societal good is imo the only way capitalism could “work”. Of course Elon is against it.

[-] dumbass@aussie.zone 25 points 2 days ago

I have a trillion dollars down in my basement you can have Elon.

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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Was there ever a hope that the customers buying the robots would control them?

MechaHitler controlled robot in my home or business is not a good marketing plan. Chinese companies are well ahead in robotics, and they have manufacturing customers, battery and motor research/leadership, lower bill of materials, plenty of AI skill. No reason to believe Tesla will be first or better.

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago

This is so stupid. If he has an issue with shareholder control, he has the money to buy the fucking shares. Sure, he has to pay the inflated bullshit price, but he can do that. Buy it and make it private, Musk. Then you can do whatever the hell you want with it, but it'll be your money on the line. If you actually believe in the product than it should be fine, right?

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