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[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

Build your shit to be fail safe. The idea that this was less bad if you self hosted is ridiculous. You will have much more outages that way.

You may be right to criticize cloud everything, but as I said, just not the problem here. Only the trigger.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 233 points 1 week ago

You know this bed is great and all, but what it's really missing is a mandatory connection to the Internet!

...jfc

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 week ago

“Carla! Carla! What the fuck is this? I know you sleep on a 25. A 25 or a 30 if you fuck up swiping. I know for a fucking fact that you would NEVER choose to sleep on a 60, and yet I found a goddamn record of a 60 when I was out last week. Who was it? Who was here?”

I really can’t see any other reason. A dial isn’t sexy but it’s far easier in every way

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 174 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

People in the 80's: "In the year 2025 we're going to have hoverboards and flying cars!"

2025: "I can't use my bed because the servers are down"

Stop making the future stupid. Never buy anything that needs to be connected to a server to work for no good reason.

[-] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 69 points 1 week ago

Smart products themselves are not the issue. The issue is making everything cloud based. The solution is companies designing their products so they can be controlled over the network.

It's a fucking bed! It doesn't need a persistent connection to some server. The problem is that they also want to mine and sell your data.

[-] MrTolkinghoen@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago

That's the key. They want to mine and sell the data

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[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Also people in the 80's: "I love my waterbed, but my back is killing me for some reason."

[-] rafoix@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 week ago

lol, e-waste beds.

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 57 points 1 week ago

I’ve heard these beds are actually quite effective at helping you sleep and then wake up more naturally.

But they have wrapped entirely local events (it’s all just timers, folks) behind a cloud-exclusive subscription and the product is useless on a sunny day like we had yesterday.

They’re enormously expensive and the subscription serves no useful purpose other than to line the pockets of the investors.

I have a strict rule of no cloud dependency in my house. Otherwise, I’d be interested - if the price was remotely reasonable.

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[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago

Reminds me that nurse interview in Spain during the blackout:

"But your hospital doesn't have a backup generator?? -Oh we have solar panels, we could be running off the grid! But the power management system requires an Internet connection, and it's down!"

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[-] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 1 week ago

So, what would be the community that is the opposite of buy it for life?

Seriously, I get that internet is ubiquitous in some areas, but everything should have the ability to function correctly without internet access.

[-] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 week ago

I feel like if I was gonna put a computer attached to a motor & heater inside a bed, the very first step would be making sure that if the software goes wrong, it always defaults to staying bed shaped and not catching fire.

I know I know hindsight is 20/20, I'm sure I'm just missing something. Venture capitalists would just give their money to any random idiot with a pitch, right?

[-] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 17 points 1 week ago

why? what if they want more money and decide to make it go subscription based? do you and the shareholders want to risk people just....unplugging them and continuing to use them? the mere idea made me drop my monocle .

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago

It's already subscription based lol

[-] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 12 points 1 week ago

why do people buy these things!?!?!

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[-] aeternum 28 points 1 week ago

I’m sorry. I’m really sorry. But why does a bed need to be smart? This is the dumbest timeline ever. It really is

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

I am more shocked that there are people who are interested in "smart" furnitures and appliance.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago

Smart devices are fine - it usually just means remote control or status. Plenty of use in that.

The problem is that no one can be arsed to buy a local hub and figure out how to connect it, so every company just builds an app and makes it cloud connected. That way they can farm your stupidity.

It’s not hard to make a device that works locally (it’s way easier than making a cloud service) but it’s far less lucrative.

That being said if I bought a $2000 mattress cover and it didn’t work offline I’d have gotten my fucking money back.

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[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago

Not that it isn’t wildly ridiculous and stupid to have an internet connected bed, but couldn’t you just unplug it if it’s overheating?

[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago

That's what customer support would have told the poor clueless customers if the hotline had not been an AI agent running on AWS!

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[-] Marshezezz 23 points 1 week ago

Look at how much capitalism creates progress and drives us as a species to better ourselves. Next step, how to make money off people breathing air and sell them a subscription for it so they can continue to consume

[-] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

There is special category for Internet of Shit devices, that not only are cloud based but also require a persistent connection to a server to even execute basic functions.

[-] SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

A reminder to not buy "smart" home appliances unless you can self-host it's internet connectivity or its "smart" features are optional.

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[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 17 points 1 week ago

Of course someone made a bed whose controls require an API with internet access..

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago

What a stupid fucking product.

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[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's amazing that they actually designed the beds to fail in the worst possible way. I mean this is cartoon crazy.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 14 points 1 week ago

This is completely ridiculous. Why would you buy a bed that goes upright? Through the internet?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 17 points 1 week ago

Why would you buy a bed that goes upright?

Health reasons? There's a reason hospital beds can go upright.

Or just leisure, if they have a TV in the bedroom, or they use a laptop in bed, etc.

Through the internet?

Terrible design. There's no reason it shouldn't be possible with local connectivity. And realistically it should also have physical buttons as a backup.

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[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because, and this may surprise you, some (most?) people don't think about how their stuff works. They just see it has an app and goes "neat!".

I don't know why my dishwasher should be online. But I've been with people who's smart watches twinkled to alert them that their dishwasher, located 30min away, was out of rinse aid. I can think of no scenario in which that is relevant. Rant warning There's a God damn light on the front of the unit, that tells you the same damn thing, and you can't do anything about without being at the unit. What are you going to do? Drop whatever you're doing at work and take an hour lunch break early to drive home and deal with it? Didn't think so.

BUT the person had seen the dishwasher and thought it was neat, modern, and needed a new dishwasher. And that's whywe end up with a lot of "smart" devices, which are just "ordinary devices with an cloud based remote control"

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[-] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago

So instead of it defaulting to last known good settings, it couldn’t poll AWS to retrieve the user settings and either just went into debug alert mode or the hardcoded defaults are full upright and max temp. More premium products kneecapped by poor management in a race to enshittify everything

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[-] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago

Waiting for the reports that cars couldn't be used because of the aws issue

[-] the_q@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

Lol wow. We truly are fucked as a species.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

People. You don't need this shit. I promise.

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[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

Ha, this reminds me of the death of the guy that gave the world lead poisoning.

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[-] mikedd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

What's wrong with just a regular mattress? Why does it have to be connected to the internet? :(

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[-] gerowen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

People who buy an internet connected bed have more dollars than sense.

[-] miguel@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago

The most first world of all first world problems has arrived

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