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[-] goatinspace@feddit.org 38 points 2 days ago
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[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I was pondering about updating that dying w10 partition, just in case. Well, looks like someone else put the final nail in that coffin for me.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I asked copilot...

How would Microsoft loyalty to US or other government's national security possibly compromise a user's PC if that user gives copilot permission to operate their PC?

How national-security or law-enforcement demands could lead to compromise

  • Compelled access to data Microsoft controls — If Microsoft stores or indexes any of your Copilot data in the cloud, Microsoft can be required by lawful process to produce that data to U.S. or other governments with legal jurisdiction.
  • Compelled changes to services — Governments can issue orders that require providers to change logging, enable access, or install monitoring in ways that may be secret or accompanied by gag orders.
  • Access to telemetry and diagnostics — Diagnostic or telemetry data that Copilot or Windows collects can include evidence of your activity and may be producible under legal request.
  • Local features that capture content — Features designed to assist (for example, an automated “Recall” that snapshots screens) create local records of sensitive material that increase exposure risk if accessed by an authorized party.
  • Remote-control or agent capabilities — If Copilot is granted elevated permissions (input control, script execution, system configuration), those same capabilities could be exercised under legal compulsion or via back-end access mechanisms.
  • Software updates and maintenance — Lawful orders can compel vendors to ship updates or config changes that alter how a product behaves, increasing access to user systems.

Practical ways those legal obligations could manifest on your PC

  • Production of synced or cloud-stored Copilot logs, prompts, or screenshots to authorities.
  • Microsoft being required to provide live access or historical logs from back-end services that the Copilot agent uses.
  • A secret court order or national security letter forcing Microsoft to enable additional logging, monitoring, or remote access for a targeted account or device.
  • Disclosure of keys, tokens, or server-side records that tie on-device events to your identity.

Why elevated permissions matter

  • Read access to files and memory lets an agent capture documents, credentials, or keys.
  • Input/automation control enables actions on your behalf (open files, send messages, change settings).
  • Persistence (services/agents) makes it easier for any compelled access to be effective and harder for you to detect or disable.

Risk-reduction steps you can take now

  • Limit permissions: Grant only the minimal Copilot privileges needed; avoid giving input control, admin rights, or system-level automation.
  • Disable features that capture content: Turn off any screen-snapshot or automatic indexing/Recall-like features if you don’t need them.
  • Avoid cloud syncing for sensitive data: Keep sensitive files off services that sync or index them in the cloud.
  • Prefer on-device-only models: Use local-only AI modes when available so prompts and context do not leave your machine.
  • Use full-disk and file-level encryption with keys you control; avoid storing keys where the vendor could be compelled to retrieve them.
  • Harden account security: Use strong, unique passwords and MFA on accounts tied to Copilot or Microsoft services.
  • Audit logs and telemetry: Review and reduce diagnostic/telemetry settings; regularly review logs for unexpected activity.
  • Segmentation: Use a separate machine or VM for highly sensitive work so a general-purpose Copilot-enabled device doesn’t hold those secrets.
  • Legal & contractual protections: For high-risk contexts, seek contractual commitments, data residency options, or legal counsel about how a vendor handles lawful demands.

Quick practical checklist

  • Turn off automatic screenshot/Recall features.
  • Remove admin permissions from Copilot agent.
  • Keep sensitive work on a non-synced, encrypted volume.
  • Use local-only AI options where offered.
  • Enable and monitor endpoint and network logging for unusual remote access.

Short conclusion Allowing Copilot to operate your PC raises the surface where lawful government demands or compelled actions could expose data or enable access. The likelihood and scope depend on which features you enable (especially cloud sync, screen capture, and elevated permissions) and the legal jurisdiction over the vendor or the data. Minimize permissions, disable content-capture features, and isolate truly sensitive workflows to reduce exposure.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

So uhm, copilot just told us not to use these new copilot features.

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[-] NeryK@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

More unwanted bloat to disable, I guess.

[-] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

You seem knowledgeable, can I remove copilot or make sure it doesn't install?

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[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And for some reason when I buy a laptop I need to also pay for that disgusting spyware. How is this scam still going on?

[-] melfie@lemy.lol 10 points 2 days ago

MafiaSoft is definitely taking their piece of the action, but laptops from smaller companies like System76 end up costing a fair amount more extra for equivalent hardware than the $50-$100 tax you’re otherwise paying for an OS you’re going to promptly replace. I’d say vote with your wallet, but I realize not everyone can afford to do so.

[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, the lack of mass production causes higher prices. Framework and system76 are doing good things and deserve support. However, the issue imo is a legislative one. You shouldn't be forced to purchase an operating system with your hardware.

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[-] Decipher0771@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago

The only reason I have a windows box is for gaming, specifically sims (racing and flying)

Ever more reason to test and see if the wheel and flight stick work under Proton.

[-] HertzDentalBar 11 points 2 days ago

Bazzite my dude. Check it out, super easy and setup for easy dual boot so you can give it a shot without clearing windows (if shits partitioned right)

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[-] bigchungus@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago

From what I'm reading it's just Cortana 2.0

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[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 12 points 2 days ago

“With Gaming Copilot (Beta)” you can let the AI play the games for you. /s 🤡

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[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago

All with your permission and built upon the security of Windows 11.

So I can decline. Good.

You’re always in control of what Copilot Actions can do. Copilot Actions is turned off by default and you’re able to pause, take control or disable it at any time.

[-] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

...until we turn it back on for you during any minor update.

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