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submitted 1 week ago by bomba037@lemmy.org to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I'm from Korea, and we impeached our president last year, mostly because he declared martial law, but he was also a terrible president, and no one really liked him being there, even his own party.

Why can't the U.S do the same, if Donald Trump is so bad? Why are some Americans even supporting him?

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[-] Aeao@lemmy.world 106 points 1 week ago

We impeached him twice. He just didn’t get removed.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

What is an impeachment then? I thought the result of an impeachment would be the removal of the president.

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 week ago

It's kind of a vote of no confidence that then requires the US Senate to hold a "trial" on whether to remove. Essentially, the House (a more general populace representative body) says "he is bad and should be reviewed'. Then the Senate (which more represents the states, not the public) decides whether to agree and then a removal happens if they do.

Otherwise? It's just the Senate saying "he's fine and we're okay with it", which is what the Republicans are. They're okay with crime and hatred of fellow Americans as long as it's their people doing the hating and criming.

[-] B0rax@feddit.org 22 points 1 week ago

Wow, that’s not very useful then, is it?

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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

What a freaking nothing burger. What a flawed system.

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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Impeachment is basically voting for there to be a hearing. You can think of it like an indictment. But then he has to be convicted at the hearing and be removed. Which will never ever happen in a senate controlled by Republicans.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The system is flawed. These "safety systems" being controlled politically rather than by law is absolutely broken. 😆 Who thought up this asinine system?

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[-] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because America is a completely corrupt society hiding behind the facade of a first world country. It's an example of how capitalism rewards the shittiest people who have no empathy for others unless they can benefit from them.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago

Pretty much this.

The short answer to OPs question is: he still has support from republicans, oligarchs, and voters.

The reasons are complex but I think there are several.

Firstly no compulsory voting. Honestly the US could barely be called a "democracy" before the current shit show.

Also the "both sides" narrative perpetuated even by those on the left, to their own detriment. The left literally protesting against their own side.

America's history of violence, racism.

Late stage capitalism - people are desperate and will follow along with populist policies even if they are lies.

Checks and balances keeping everything just a tiny sliver to the sane side of abject chaos. Like the tariffs in April - Trump rode right up to the edge but chickened out. If he hadn't he would've lost control after the global financial economy collapsed.

Religion. Not sure what the situation is in Korea but it can't be as bad as the US. Christianity in the US is just a salve to allow assholes to justify their shit behavior.

I could go on.

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[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

South Korea is a capitalist economy....this has nothing to do with capitalism...

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[-] lath@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Because Republicans vs Democrats has almost reached North Korea vs South Korea status. Republicans want their "democratic" glorious leader and Democrats want profits. And neither care about the people.

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[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 20 points 1 week ago

no one really liked him being there, even his own party

This is the difference. Trump is still liked by roughly half the country. And the Republican party still fully supports him.

[-] Jordan117@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

It's a two step process: a majority of the House must vote to impeach, then the Senate has a trial where you need a two-thirds majority to convict and remove them from office. House Democrats actually impeached Trump twice in his first term when they had the majority (once for blackmailing Ukraine, and again after the January 6th attack), but Republicans in the Senate blocked conviction.

Right now, Republicans have the majority in both the House and the Senate, so there's not even a chance of impeachment, much less conviction.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Because it requires political cooperation. And in a society at polarised as theirs there is no chance of that happening with his cult of personality.

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[-] TomMasz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

The Founders created the impeachment process without consideration for political parties. They naively assumed Congress would act in accordance with the Constitution and standard jurisprudence with no regard for ideology. While it hasn't always been this way, there are really only two parties that matter at the Federal level. The House of Representatives, which is responsible for determining whether a trial is appropriate (similar to a Grand Jury), is controlled by Republicans. They won't even consider holding impeachment hearings, let alone recommend a trial in the Senate. The Senate, also controlled by Republicans, would likely do the same thing they did twice during his first term, which is essentially nothing.

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 13 points 1 week ago

His party members either love him, is too terrified to say otherwise, or is just milking the cow - and they make up the majority of government.

USA is COOKED, sorry to say.

[-] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

American politicians face zero accountability. It's a time-honored tradition

[-] Faux@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Trump's presidency is a materialization of Yankee elites panicking. USA is going to lose a hegemony it achieved after USSR collapsed and Trump is making desperate moves trying to stop it. And the ruling class (the billionaires) support it in general.

[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

They cannot.

The republican party is complicit, and supports the evil he does, and more than that, he commands their supporters, so it would be political suicide for them.

Why can't the democrats? The republicans control all 4 parts of government and even if they had control over the senate, they would need 60% of the votes, a number that is unprecedented in recent times.

[-] bitcrafter@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago

The votes needed for removal is actually 66%, which is even harder, but otherwise I concur.

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Fox News and Trump make it so that if members of Congress oppose the president they get death threats and definitely won’t be re-elected. Republicans will let Trump do anything at this point.

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