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[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 37 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

With Linux, I can change just about everything. If I want a real-time kernel, I can switch. If I want a different desktop environment, change. If I want more control from my keyboard, Linux has my back.

As much as I agree with the sentiment of the article, this is a terrible reason and more likely to scare people away from Linux rather than get them to install it.

If you know what a "real-time kernel" is, you're probably already using Linux and you are a highly technically literate user. Any "normal person" user is going to look at that and think "Oh, I guess I need to understand technobabble in order to use Linux". Normal users care about easy, preset defaults, not customization.

Once again, Linux adoption is kneecapped by its own users, who forget what normal people really care about.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

The computer savvy folks don’t need to be reminded. The non savvy folks who don’t have time to learn Linux are stuck with windows/apple.

[-] varnia 5 points 5 days ago

Many tech-savvy people just haven’t made the switch to Linux - often out of convenience rather than capability. Focusing on broader adoption first could make it easier to introduce Linux to less technical users later.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

still have game holdouts that need windows, waiting until they are dropped by the friend group

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[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Real-time Kernel?

Like my popcorn?

Desktop environment

Jimmy I work in an office. What are you talking about?

  • Your average Windows user... Probably.
[-] refalo@programming.dev 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

5 reasons you should not ditch Windows:

  • Your hardware is incompatible or you do not want to fiddle with settings or command lines

  • Your applications/games only work well on native Windows (and not wine)

  • You need serious group policy support or other device/software lockdown methods

  • Your company policy requires it

  • Makes helping Windows users harder if you cannot walk them through the same things they are doing

Of course if any of these apply you can always dual-boot or use a VM. I'm not saying you shouldn't use Linux at all.

[-] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago

you do not want to fiddle with settings or command lines

Kinda the reverse for me

I need to fiddle with Massgrave and various debloat scripts to run win

Your applications/games only work well on native Windows

Windows for docker, winboat, etc

serious group policy support or other device/software lockdown methods

I would argue sudo and normal file permissions do the same

Makes helping Windows users harder

???

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Your company policy requires it

The only legitimate thing on this list. Also the most obvious and pointless.

I don't think anybody is saying to format Linux over the company computer against their Windows policy.

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[-] bobaworld@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

One of the biggest things keeping me from jumping into Linux as my primary OS is because of nvidia's performance issues, particularly with DX12 games on Linux. I'd be taking like a 10%-30% performance hit. I know the games will "run" but I want them to run well, that's why I spend so much money on my GPU.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago

Linux doesn't really have better security. It is actually worse from a purely security perspective.

The key difference is privacy and freedom. A high security prison might be secure but you probably don't want to be there.

[-] anonymous111@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago
[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not OP but - Windows is being bombarded by malware every second of every day. Linux, with its 6% of desktop user market share - not so much. This kinda' guarantees Windows has a pretty good resilience (these days).

On top of that - in Linux you can change/break anything, which means bad actors could have you run malware by posting "helpful" comments on help threads. You know, "just run this .sh with sudo".

Then you have situations like Arch has been going through - DDOS attacks on official repos and malware injected into a couple of packages in AUR. Sure, it got caught - but how many users installed the malware? How many other packages are under less scrutiny and are still serving malware in AUR?

And, I'm certain, someone out there is reading this and preparing to write a hot take on how "AUR is what it is, you're not supposed to blindly install stuff from it" - but that's exactly the problem. Because 99% of users have no clue what they're doing.

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[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The first one (MS account) is so weird to me...

I mean, I get it, people are just allergic to "anything MS", but it's just silly.

Set up a "burner" MS account. Use it to set up the OS, get your BitLocker recovery key and the OS license backed up automatically for easy use. Create your regular local account, switch, remove admin rights from the MS account, never use it again.

Job done, problem solved.

The third one (better performance) is disingenuous. Better performance... where? On what hardware? Nvidia drivers are notorious for causing issues. Many games, even on Proton, run like crap or just... don't run.

The last one, security, is also a bad reason. Linux is not inherently more secure than Windows, it's just less attacked due to a lower desktop market share. What Linux does have, however, is that it's massively easier to break by a clueless user, especially when following online advice when something isn't working - and that's going to be a common occurrence, especially with freshly-switched newbies. Windows will prevent noobs from breaking or exposing a lot of stuff.

The urban legend that Linux is more secure than Windows needs to die.

[-] witten@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm always amused at the hoops that some Windows users will jump through in a vain attempt to sidestep Microsoft's telemetry and surveillance—rather than just using an OS that respects your privacy to begin with. It's gotta be Stockholm syndrome or something.

EDIT: https://tessa.transpri.de/i/ngcpy.gif

[-] bobaworld@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

It's the nvidia performance issues that keep me on Windows. I'd love to use an operating system that values and respects my privacy. But I'm not willing to take a large gaming performance hit to do it. That day this gets fixed I am dropping Windows and never looking back.

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[-] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Linux is more secure than Windows

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[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago

To me, that's the same as "Five reasons not to invite a renowned scammer and con artist into your home". Unfortunately, my work colleagues think its normal and what else can they do but shrug.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

i worked in a specific financial subindustry and the three software packages that were the best in the industry were not supported on linux (i did not test with WINE). the only software package that had linux support was absolutely awful. interface designed by business majors, not industry specialists.

i wish it were easy to work on linux, but hoping doesn't get them to change.

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[-] Throskie@midwest.social 3 points 5 days ago

Holy shit, ZDNet is still a thing?

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[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

I just wish games worked fine on Linux.

[-] baropithecus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Good news, an overwhelming majority does work fine, and a significant number of those actually run better than on windows. I just switched to Linux on my desktop pc (because of win 10 EOL and because fuck microsoft) and I'm amazed how smooth the experience has been.

[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

I read people online saying this often. But I’ve neve been able to play things without hiccups on Linux before.

With very very few exceptions.

[-] baropithecus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I wonder why our experiences are this different. What distribution of linux do you run, on which hardware and how recent is your experience? For what it's worth, I have an AMD cpu and gpu with cachyos (which is a flavor of arch with some gaming optimizations pre-applied at install). I'd urge you to give it another try, Proton/Wine has really advanced a lot in the past few years.

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[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago
[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

I’ve read people saying this here on lemmy often.

But it really hasn’t been my experience at all with very few exceptions.

[-] noddy@beehaw.org 1 points 4 days ago

What games? Because a lot of games do work fine, maybe even most of them. The problem is that the outliers are often games that a lot of people are playing (see https://areweanticheatyet.com/). Those games are usually not my cup of tea anyways.

[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

The two I tried recently that were problematic were wow and last epoch.

Allegedly they both work fine. They don’t though.

[-] noddy@beehaw.org 1 points 2 days ago

I'm usually playing steam games, and I often will find a solution to make it work on protondb if I have issues. Most of my games I can just install and run though. But I understand it being frustrating if your favourite games don't work or require lots of tinkering. I have played a few older games outside steam as well. I usually use Bottles for that, as it creates a wine prefix for me that's set up with DXVK, etc out of the box.

[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Last epoch is a steam game. And on protondb it’s platinum apparently.

Never had a good experience with it on Linux though. Buggy as hell.

[-] noddy@beehaw.org 1 points 22 hours ago

Reading the comments on the protondb page, a lot of them are using startup options and proton experimental for example. Weird that it has platinum rating if tinkering is necessary though.

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