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submitted 1 week ago by drmoose@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Greece's parliament approved a bill on Thursday allowing private sector employers to extend working hours despite protests from workers already struggling from a cost-of-living crisis.

The bill, which allows employers to enforce 13-hour work days, up from the current eight hours, aims to make the labour market more flexible and effective, the conservative government says.

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[-] Saljid@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago

Something only a general strike could fix

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

The overime structure is very confusing here and correct me if im wrong but either way it doesn't look good

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

I know one line that'll go up: suicides.

[-] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago

Why are they learning from south Korea, you are not supposed to follow their example.

[-] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago

Fascists will fasc...no war but class war.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Anything but raise taxes on the rich. I swear that the politicians across the globe seem to be talking to each other and agreed to fuck the ordinary people.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 26 points 1 week ago

That is fucking insane.

[-] acchariya@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Test case for the austerity fallout from the ai bubble pop. A skeleton crew of peasant workers probably supporting a family to prop up a tiny rich class with more time and money than ever. It's the middle ages coming back.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Nah Greece is not in the AI race or any tech race for that matter. The country is still in the year 2005 tech-wise, for better or worse.

[-] acchariya@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The owner class is testing their ability to roll back working conditions for the rest of us, starting in Greece and probably ending in France

[-] Paradoxeuh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Very true. I sure hope Paris will be burning way before we end up with such working conditions. The best way to balance wealth has always been destroying everything.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not the best pay for overtime, but it's just a couple of days ago that people here claimed there was zero compensation, as in they weren't paid for overtime at all. At least according to this edited headline that is NOT true. But I can't find that info in the article?

And I still find it confusing that this is now "allowed". Does that mean it was not allowed to work more than 8 hours per day in Greece? As in overtime with a 40 hour work week was not allowed?

No wonder then that their economy suck. That's extremely rigid, and especially small companies need to be more flexible than that to run efficiently.

Actually allowing for more flexible overtime, will make it easier to later lower the standard work hours.
I can see everybody is up in arms about how horrible this is, but if there really is pay for overtime, this seems like a much needed change, and not at all the horror show almost everybody here on Lemmy have claimed.
Also there is nothing in these articles about allowing overtime, that show that an employer can demand it, as was also claimed by some previously.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 14 points 1 week ago

20% overtime pay for the first 10 hours a week is ridiculously low. Time and a half is pretty standard. Even at over 10 hour shifts, it's not getting to time and a half.

If they doubled the percentages, I'd think it's fair. However, overtime should always be optional. There is a good argument for both sides to be reasonable, but requiring repeated overtime isn't overtime, any more, that's normal shifts.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

According to u/unpossom that's not possible, they can only do it 3 days per month.
And it's a heck of a lot better than zero as was claimed in previous posts about this.

[-] unpossum@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Fta:

The extended work shift can only be applied three days a month and up to 37 days a year.

That doesn’t seem entirely unreasonable, but maybe there is something not being reported on here?

[-] demonsword@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

That doesn’t seem entirely unreasonable

Of course it doesn't, you won't be personally affected by it, right?

[-] unpossum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I mean, no, but the rules in Scandinavia, which isn’t exactly a capitalist hellhole, are similar, I think? Norway, for instance, has

10 hours overtime over a 7-day period 25 hours overtime over a period of 4 consecutive weeks 200 hours overtime over a 52-week period

when there is a pressing need due to unexpected workload or the like. There’s also a 13 hour limit per day.

There’s probably something I’m missing here about the labour market in Greece, though. Or Norway’s for that matter. Also the compensation should be higher ofc

ETA: correct translation, additional thought, link to OT rules for Norway: https://www.arbeidstilsynet.no/en/working-hours-and-organisation-of-work/working-hours/overtime/

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

There's a lot not being reported, seems to me that every extra piece of info we get, makes this more and more reasonable, and a nothing burger IMO.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 1 week ago

Just steal more money from EU. I'm sure that will fix the economy.

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