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[-] _chris@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Whoever could have predicted this

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Certainly not every single person outside of the AI industry.

[-] ZDL@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 week ago

I'm going to take a shot in the dark here and guess that the people inside the AI industry aren't surprised either. They're just playing a game of fiscal hot potato hoping they're not the ones left holding it when the music stops.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I think there are plenty that are high on their supply. Lots of them truly believe AI will save the world.

[-] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 1 week ago

I'm a bit more cynical than that. I'm pretty sure that the "AI is the future!"/"AI will destroy humanity, we must tame it!" crowds are just a well-orchestrated horse and pony show.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Nah. Even a prolific person like Peter Theil is doing it because he has a warped sense of reality and thinks he's stopping the antichrist by pushing technology forward.

[-] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 week ago

He's not really in the industry though. He's an investor in it. By "in the industry" I mean the people running the LLM companies or working on the LLMs. I just can't see someone who actually works with those things thinking that there's real intellect coming forth from them when even a tech ignoramus like me can spot the obvious signs that these things are fake.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

He absolutely uses AI (maybe not LLM) in his automated weapon systems he sells to the government.

[-] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 points 6 days ago

Well that is probably true, but I'm pretty sure his engineers are smart enough to know LLMs have no place in automated anything other than bullshit makers.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I sincerely doubt that is true. Just about every coder is using an LLM in some capacity. And if they're not, they're getting left behind. It's just another tool you can use to make yourself more successful.

[-] ZDL@lazysoci.al 2 points 6 days ago

Can you find a peer-reviewed study that shows any form of meaningful productivity increase from use of LLMs?

I can't. I can only find the opposite. I'd be intrigued to see the positive.

(Note: peer-reviewed study. Not a bunch of anecdotes from people saying "I TOTALLY VIBE-CODED MYSELF INTO MASTERY!")

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

The earlier the bubble pops, the less damage it does to us all. So yes, cheer for the burst.

[-] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

There have many articles about this (I'm kinda getting tired of it) but I know they will act super surprised anyway when it finally happens.

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Quick, what's something else that uses thousands of GPUs, electricity and fresh water that we can sell to VCs?

  • ~~VR~~
  • ~~.com~~
  • ~~Big Data~~
  • ~~VR~~
  • ~~Crypto Currency~~
  • ~~VR~~
  • ~~Gen AI~~
  • ???

(ETA to add a couple of bubbles to the list.)

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

NFT's should be on this list. Well. That and the metaverse.

[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

A triple A game that's so bloated and un-optimized it requires two, no... three video cards in parallel to properly run.

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

AR glasses that require a server for all their functionality?

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 0 points 1 week ago

Oh that's good, I forgot about VR/AR!

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

With AI augments of course.

[-] vane@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago
[-] sundray@lemmus.org 0 points 1 week ago

Can we convince VCs that SETI will eventually pay out, though?

[-] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

When you connect aliens with people so they can talk with each other. Multiply telecommunication market capital by 2.

[-] someacnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Damn it. I think maybe this time it is. Dunno for real, but charts might be going for it.

EDIT: Narrator: It wasn't.

[-] testman@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Maybe they should not have created the bubble in the first place.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It’s one thing to create a bubble. It’s another when everybody continues to throw their money in when it’s obvious it’s a bubble.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Oh guys, don't be silly. Just ask the chatbot, it knows what to do!

Then our weirdo creep peeking-tom pervert overlords in Silicon Valley will have their infinite magic money pit and they'll finally get real buff and get cool hairstyles and they'll be popular and all the girls will think they're really cool!

Gosh, I'm so excited for little Mark Zuckerberg to get his first kiss. Maybe then he can fuck off to space forever.

[-] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

Just like the .Com bubble, the technology will stay, but many "yeah, we are doing AI now" companies will go.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Seattle baseball is doing well this year, and there are so many ChatGPT ads. There's one where a guy is doing pull-ups. The text shows him asking ChatGPT for help doing pull ups. The response, as printed on the ad, generously typed by me for your convenience:

8-Week Pull-up Progression plan Weekly Schedule

  • Day 1 - Strength focus
  • Day 2 - Rest or light activity
  • Day 3 - Volume focus.
  • Day 4 - Core and mobility.
  • Day 5- Full-body strength (optional).

Core exercises

  • Negative pull-ups - 3x5 (5-10 seconds).
  • Assisted pull-ups (bands or a machine) - 3x6-10.
  • Inverted rows (under a bar) - 3x8-12.
  • Lat pull-downs (if gym access) - 3x10-12.
  • Dead hangs - 3x30 seconds

Supporting Work

  • Core - Hanging leg raises, planks, and hollow holds.
  • Biceps - Hammer curls and chin-ups
  • Grip - Farmer's carries and towel hangs
  • Mobility - Scapular shrugs and shoulder abduction.

Tips for Faster Progress

  • Do pull-ups when fresh.
  • Track your reps weekly.
  • Protein and calories matter

Wow, great advice. If I knew what a hammer curl was, I probably wouldn't need your advice that "calories matter." Also what does 3x6-10 mean? Reps, sets, and ....?

Day 1, "strength focus" what the hell does that mean? You don't say what strength focus is. You only provided core exercises. How come hanging leg raises and planks from supporting work aren't listed in the core exercises? If day 2 is a rest day, then what are days 6 and 7?

Like what is the plan? Do they hope you don't even read the text? Is that why it scrolls so fast?

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I might be wrong here but:

  1. The "protein and calories matter" is in the "tips" section. Might be a bit asinine, but it's not the worst reminder on Earth.
  2. I think that's rest interval length, in seconds. It's the gap you take in between sets to give yourself a breather and some time to recover.
  3. It's vague, I agree. Taken in conjunction with "Volume focus" on day 3, I'd suggest that what that means is day 1 is the day to try bigger weights, for shorter sets, focusing on brute strength. Day 3 would be the day to drop your weights a little, and work longer to build endurance and conditioning. It is vague, though! And that doesn't help with a lot of the exercises listed.
  4. I think there are two meanings of "core" in play here. The "core exercises" section I think is supposed to be something like "foundational exercises to train yourself to be good at pull-ups", and the "core" bit of the "supporting exercises" bit is literally talking about your core muscles.
  5. I have no idea, chatbots are shit
  6. Marketers are sheisty scumbags whom I largely think are to blame for a lot of the ways the internet is dying and art is being commodified. You're right, that's why they scroll it past so fast; they have nothing worth showing, so just give you the impression of something.

Fuck ChatGPT, fuck LLMs, fuck marketers.

[-] rainwall@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

3x6-10 isn't a rest interval. It reads as "3 sets of 6-10 reps" of the exercise. So between 18-30 total reps, generally done in sets to let the body rest between reps to build up ATP so you have energy to do the repeats. Rest time should almost always be up to 3 min between sets for maximum energy in that muscle group, but no less than 90 seconds.

If you do sets of workouts in sequence with other sets of excersizes, that is a circuit. Organizing sets by muscle group and alternating them on a circuit is a great way to let you get that 3 minutes of rest for those muscles while still being efficient. Push ups to lunges to ab wheel rollout would be a basic example of a circuit that goes "upper body -- lower body -- core"

Also fuck Chatbots, fuck LLMs, fuck Marketers. Seriously, fuck all of them.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Ahh I see, thanks for clarifying! I've only just started taking exercising seriously so I'm definitely new to some of the concepts. I'll keep that in mind 💪

[-] rainwall@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No problem at all. It always a learning process. Some light generic tips:

Form is more more important than anything else. Lifting 15 lbs right is better than 50lbs wrong. Do the excersizes with good form, and the gains will come much faster.

You need 48hrs of rest between workouts. It seems excessive, but working out literally tears muscles. Your body needs time to repair them. If you want to work out everyday, alternate muscle groups. This is where the "leg day, arm day, core day" terms come from. The excersizes can overlap a bit, but focus them. Personally, I just alterate Mon - Wed - Friday with whole body workouts.

Water, protein and sleep all matter as much as the weight or intensity. Again, you're tearing your body down during the workout. If you don't give it what it needs to heal up, it will only do what it can, which means the workout is partly wasted. Do what you can here, real world concerns are a bitch, but you need these to get stronger.

If you don't have weights, you can always do body weight fitness. There are routines out there of pushups/lunges/squats/handstands/planks/etc that will work your body just like weightlifting, and you don't need to own anything. Reddit had something called "the recommended routine" that was a great starting place for BWF.

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