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it is relocating its global headquarters from California to the Netherlands.
It makes sense as the US has become openly hostile to electric vehicles.
It makes sense as the US has become openly hostile to
science.
Among other things
It would also make more sense having an electric motorcycle in Europe (with lots of charging infrastructure and shorter commutes) than in North America.
Also the US market is flooded with all kinds of illegal/grey area electric scooters and "ebikes" that are way cheaper than a proper, safe, regulation conforming electric motorcycle, but the law enforcement doesn't give a shit about them. It's hard to compete in a market where the competition is cheating.
Not the same thing. These are proper motorcycles with VIN numbers. The reality is Americans DGAF about the environment and it makes sense to work from a country that is buying your product.
...yes? And when someone wants an electric vehicle to use on their commute, they can either buy a 20k Zero, get it registered, insured, maybe get a motorcycle licence, gear etc.
Or they can buy an "ebike" or electric scooter that goes 60mph and has none of the requirements for fraction of the price instead.
None of those cheap Chinese bike/ scooters hit 60mph. There is one model that does, but it's not road legal. It would be no different than trying to commute on a dirt bike. My issue with zero is that they are very overpriced and owners are locked out of repair.
https://www.envirorides.co.uk/products/f1-pro-electric-scooter
https://www.kaabo.com/wolf-king-gt/
https://dualtronusa.com/products/dualtron-limited
https://fluidfreeride.com/products/nami-burn-e
And yeah, none of them are road legal. Drill down the electric scooter laws in the us, and the laws are rather strict about them. One basic one that's in many states - if it weighs over 100lbs, it's illegal. But because theres basically no enforcement, it doesn't matter. That's my point
That's also why people from the US keep whining the EU has such ridiculous restriction and claiming their land of the free has none of such and they can do whatever they want because there are no laws. When in fact, sometimes the US laws are even stricter, nobody just gives a shit.
Charging infra ? Don't they just use a GPO?
Am Australian, alas we don't get them anymore, id like the DS.
And many more to follow 🥂
Sigh I had just applied to them for a job.
So... use it as an excuse to get a visa in othrr country and immigrate there?
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