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[-] melfie@lemy.lol 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I believe Waymo’s strategy has always been to shoot for level 5 autonomous driving and not bother with the others. Tesla not following that strategy has proven them correct. You either have a system that is safe, reliable, and fully autonomous, or you’ve got nothing. Not that Waymo has a system at this point that can work under all conditions, but their approach is definitely superior to Tesla’s if nothing else.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

From what I've seen, most issues with Waymo are that they are too careful, too rigid with laws and too easy to fool with things like traffic cones and lines of spray paint. Meanwhile Teslas speed past stopped school buses mowing down children and crash in to walls and parked cars at highway speeds.

Imma take my chances with the car stuck in the middle of the road because someone plopped a traffic cone on the hood, thank you very much.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago

And a orange safer than a knive.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

or seemingly an act of God. (In one case, a pickup truck being towed in front of a Waymo came loose and smashed into the vehicle.)

Baffling to see god mentioned as a possible cause.

[-] rarbg@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

God should’ve secured his load

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago

But they didnt move fast at all. I saw people driving Waymo'a for years before I saw the first automated one hit the streets. They took their damn time which I am sure was expensive and worth it.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 20 points 2 days ago

They're mobile spyware belonging to an alphabet agency.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 29 points 2 days ago
[-] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago

lidar Deez nuts

gottem

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 24 points 2 days ago

This article is a little light on thesis, but legit.

Personally, I'd like to tie a vision of autonomous vehicles to a broad rethinking of transit and public ownership. What if training data was shared, so instead of allowing Google to create another monopoly we deliberately cultivated a diverse market? What if we designed roads to accommodate autonomous van pools and also bikes and more light vehicles?

We can dream better than this.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I for one believe we're capable of building trains

[-] Fredthefishlord 28 points 2 days ago

autonomous van pools

We could even call them busses

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

I love buses too, but a van pool is materially different. Buses travel fixed routes. A van pool can act as a shared taxi that shuttles people directly between points of immediate departure, transit stations, and final destinations.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 17 points 2 days ago

Safer than ChatGPT you say? Wow....

That isn't a high bar.

[-] sem 12 points 2 days ago

Move fast, break laws, escape repercussions.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They moved on to calling it "disrupting the market". I think the latest is "Revolutionize the way we do ...". Same thing really.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

yea right. time will tell.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

As someone who has been on over 50 Waymo rides, I trust them more than any human driver. They drive extremely carefully see things coming that I would have never seen coming. Only thing that annoys me is that they do stupid little things like turning left from the left lane instead of the center lane, or cruising in the left lane, exactly at the speed limit.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 days ago

There is a very large safety difference between Waymo and Tesla robotaxis right now.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

teslas looked safe for a while though. imma take my time.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 days ago

Tesla robotaxis had a string of crashes their first day

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

i didn't know that 😂

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah but they didn’t move fast. autonomous road vehicles have been in development by one company or another for what, twenty years at least? It’s only in the last couple of years that they’ve started hitting the road.

[-] suigenerix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yep, the DARPA Grand Challenge of 2004 spurred the modern self-driving car era. But attempts at self driving cars were made as early as the 70s - earlier, depending on how you define autonomous driving. And Waymo has had driveless cars on roads since 2017.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

That probably is not so comforting when one of them is in control of half a ton of metal, plastic and glass in public.

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