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[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

Ukraine: First time?

[-] umb_official@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

Didn’t Biden try to get Taiwan to make chips in the US but they thought Americans were too dumb to learn how to make them lmao

[-] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

TSMC does have fabs in Arizona now. Next to the Intel fabs. 😆

It’s more about money and proprietary tech.

Cutting edge fabs are expensive and risky, which is why most chip companies are fabless, and they should be a state project because of the risk and expense. I’ve seen estimates of $15-$20 billion dollars to setup a new 3nm fab.

Intel, TSMC, and Samsung are the 3 companies left which run cutting edge fabs. Intel missed on a couple generations, and they are sinking. Samsung is lagging, so it remains to be seen how long they’re in the game.

TSMC figured out the new tech and Intel didn’t. TSMC picked the correct horse, and Intel didn’t. It’s my understanding Intel couldn’t switch to the TSMC process if they wanted to. The two are different enough to be incompatible.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

i read that the american workers were too entitled to take the abuse from their taiwanese task masters so they imported their own compliant workers.

[-] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml 1 points 55 minutes ago

too entitled to take the abuse

too entitled to learn from people who are clearly smarter then they are

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago
[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

America doesn't need half of it's national demand met by domestic production. Just enough to not need to start from scratch should China gain control over Taiwan. South Korea might already be fulfilling that role with GlobalFoundries (though that's owned by the UAE so ... ).

It'd be a nightmare trying to get the skilled foreign labor into America these days though so it's a lost cause anyway.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 8 points 17 hours ago

Trump: Why don't you guys move half your manufacturing to the US...that way we still get your chips even if China invades?

Taiwan: Ummm. Yeah, no.

[-] wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

More like

Taiwan: Ummm, China is not going to invade, that is just your shitty propaganda

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

If that were the case, why ask them to move their production to the US...and why would Taiwan refuse? Those chips are leverage.

[-] TWeaK@lemmy.ml 18 points 20 hours ago

Trump needs to realise he really doesn't have the cards.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago

A "demand" is not a negotiation. I'm starting to think that trump is neither a good businessman nor a good negotiator. /s

[-] Mgineer@lemmy.ml 16 points 20 hours ago

That was the only possible response

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