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[-] killea@lemmy.world 133 points 3 days ago

Gee I sure am glad polygraph tests are proven lie detectors and have no issues whatsoever! It's almost like hearing someone mention phrenology now.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 31 points 3 days ago

You better watch out, they’ll find out you said that when they start performing seances.

[-] athairmor@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

My chiropractor told me seances were just a bunch of voodoo.

[-] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Thanks, I hate it

[-] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

I mean, they're fascists. They're almost certainly into full-on eugenics, let alone phrenology!

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

They work perfectly...if all you want to know is who's nervous about being interrogated.

[-] zd9@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

And it's almost like, those who have been trained and operate within military and intelligence are the best at compartmentalizing information, making it really easy to beat those... Almost like it.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Honeypots / web traffic monitoring can work though

Everyone Googling “beat polygraph” gonna be in doo doo!

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Polygraphs are generally "good" at detecting anxiety more than anything else.

Which.. in this case they might actually be a halfway decent tool. Hear me out.

For a lot of the kinds of security clearances that those people would have, regular polygraph checks are a requirement. Hence, they all have a well established baseline and are used to the process. If you are now looking for people who dislike the administration or may have "betrayed" it by reporting to the american people what is going on? Anxiety is quite likely going to go above baseline.

Michael Westin is gonna Costanza his way through that shit. But the analyst who is torn between compiling a list of every single person who probably voted Democrat in the last election versus letting people know that is going on? There are much worse ways to weed them out.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago

Yes, they know polygraphs are inconclusive, this is obviously about systemic harassment and abuse. It’s part of the purge.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

They filed charges a few years on a guy who wrote a book on how to beat them. If they did that then they know they can be manipulated. If they can be fooled then they are useless. I read a article several years ago that stated the first scientist the US government hired to study them concluded it was pseudo science. They were fired and replaced by a group that concluded they worked. No surprise there.

I can't find the article to match up with that statement anymore but there are plenty studies debunking them. I want one to play with. I can to a certain extent manipulate my heart rate. I found this out when I had a heart attack. They hook me up almost every time I go in the hospital which I've been back three times. I can alter my heart rate to slow down and speed up enough make it alarm. I can also control my blood pressure if I'm in the right frame of mind. If I can do that I'm sure I could manipulate a polygraph. I want to be able to write my name with one.

[-] daannii@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's pseudoscience. Lie detectors aren't real. They don't work.

They can pay me to come in and read palms and do tarot readings. Probably more accurate.

Idiots.

[-] IndridCold@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

I have some chicken bones left over from last nights dinner. For only $1000 a head I'll throw them on the ground and tell you all about someone.

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 days ago

The guys who invited a reporter to a fucking WhatsApp convo want to hunt for leaks?

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Underrated comment.

[-] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago

Government custom modified Signal, though the point still stands.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 58 points 3 days ago

I have taken 3 polygraphs on my life, and I lied on every one of them. None of the polygraphers caught the lies, but every one of them accused me of lying on questions that I hadn't lied on at all.

Polygraphs are voodoo. I would NEVER take one with my life or freedom on the line.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

They measure stress. Kind of ironically, it's likely more reliable on people that think it works and thus get stressed while lying during the test. Of course, it can't tell why you're stressed so false positives happen a lot.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

This has nothing to do with finding a leaker. All they will do is check the individuals voting record to see if they are deemed a lier or not. Did they vote for Trump the last 3 times? Yes? Welcome to the inner circle. (this totally won't backfire...)

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

What led to taking 3 polygraphs?

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago

2 were for jobs, and one was after money turned up missing. We all knew who took it, but they wanted to polygraph two other people first, before testing her, and I was chosen.

I would take it for a job, and would probably lie just for fun, but if it was because I was accused of a crime, and it could contribute to me going to prison, I would absolutely refuse.

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 days ago

Probably applying for certain jobs. I know that any job touching sensitive information from courts is required to have had employees tested before getting a job, at least in my area.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

This is insane. It selects for only incredibly stupid people who don’t believe in reality getting the job.

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago

only incredibly stupid people who don’t believe in reality

Nah, it's worse than that. It selects for people who are willing to submit to things they know are bullshit when told to do so, because they think the outcome is worth it. If I am recalling this correctly, I think there are actually laws prohibiting polygraph tests for job applications, but there are specific exceptions for these jobs. It's absolutely insane. That means there were lobbyists somewhere making sure that their industry was given an exception when the politicians were writing the law. Like, I can't even imagine who would be paying for those lobbyists.

[-] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

Leaks? Prolly another signal chat between Pete and tulsi. Traitors.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 days ago

"Leaks". More like a "loyalty test".

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 15 points 3 days ago

Polygraphs™ - an advanced AI powered system that asks the test subject complex questions such as "Who did you vote for?" and "Would you stand up and shout 'MAGA' whist doing a salute?".

The admiral-general irl meeting confirmed to them they need to purge the military chain of command if they wanna do any couping.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 29 points 3 days ago

How are polygraphs still a thing? They don’t work as intended.

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 13 points 3 days ago

They do work as intended. As a "bad cop"

[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

You expect drunkey maclunkey to know that?

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"Are you now or ever been a member of the communist party?"

[-] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 7 points 3 days ago

I have a friend that recently received a green card and they asked him if he was communist. Shit really had me cracking up.

[-] quackerjo@lemmy.wtf 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This a guaranteed to be a gigantic shit show that will become an unmitigated disaster, if they don't end up abandoning it early on.

I can't fucking wait.

Imagine these morons going on a tear and firing 20% of the bureaucrats at the Pentagon.

The majority will be fired based on false positives and office politics. Those rounds of firings will then cause so many of their former colleagues to start leaking information, in addition to the leakers that passed the polygraph.

I'm seriously giddy at the thought.

[-] brianshatchet@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Maybe do the right things and dont alienate people and tou won't have to worry about leaks.

[-] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

This is just about removing everyone they don't like because there was a spike on the e-meter Polygraphs don't work as well as people think.

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Isn't hegseth the leak? How many unsecure group chats with random people has he made now?

[-] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

There’s a book, written by s former “operator” of a polygraph. The book speaks of the machines EXTREME limitations, and also explains how one would screw up the results.

But, despite the uselessness of the machine, they’re just looking for people with the wrong politics. Plain and simple.

Plly is a pretext for asking “questions”

[-] plyth@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If Palantir is at work they can already have the answers. They only need a pretext to fire the people that don't fit.

Nevertheless nobody dares to speak up from now on. So many bad ideas will bind so many resoures. There will be so many Homer's cars. It will be interesting.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Except they don't work...

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Pete Kegbreath's guide on how to engineer a military coup against yourself in no time.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Good thing those ekg outputs mean nothing.

[-] ryrybang@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Can Trump go first? Can it also include electric shock devices hooked up to his ear lobes and vagina neck each time there's a red flag? Finally, can this be live streamed?

Willing to pay a lot of money to this stream.

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