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Orcas sink tourist yacht off Portugal’s coast in latest attack
(www.the-independent.com)
Given his record, I actually believe Bernie when he says this.
Orcas are more into the class war than the commies at this stage.
What people think of when they hear the word "yacht:"
The size of boat the whales are actually attacking:
I know everybody wants to root for the whales attacking the billionaire 1%, but that's not what's actually happening.
You "only" need to be a hundred millionaire in order to afford to maintain the one in the second photo.
A 40ft Bohemian? A five year old one will set you back €200k in good condition, and cost around 10% of its value in maintenance, mooring and repairs each year.
People have cars more expensive than that on their driveways.
And they spend 20k a year to maintain their car?
That's more than many people make in a year. Get a grip.
You’re right, many people don’t make 20k per year. But my point was that you don’t need hundreds of millions to afford a sailing yacht, and I don’t need to be attacked for adding some data to your comment. Perhaps it is you who should get “a grip” on your interpersonal skills?
most of Earth’s popukation makes less than $20k a year
Yeah, but people with more expensive cars than that are still likely millionaires. I've been thinking of buying a boat for years, but that boat would still be a lot smaller than these. (And I still haven't because it's not just the purchase, but also maintenance and mooring.)
Although friends of us do have a boat that might be that size. They also live on a houseboat. They don't have a regular house, and if they have a car, I haven't seen it.
So I guess middle class people can own a boat like that, but it takes sacrifices in other areas.
I've been thinking of buying a ~40' sailboat like that (an older used one for <$100k, BTW), but it would be to live aboard full-time and become nomadic while either selling or renting out my house.
See? Then it just becomes an affordable (if cramped) house.
I've also known people who had their own massive custom built catamaran that they lived on. Traveled around the world on that thing, accepting paying passengers to travel with them part of the way.
...not if you are poor quick check on google. Found the world inequality database. Richest 3% of income is $250k per year usd 240 million people reach this level globally. Richest 6% wealth wise globally is around $1 million usd 480 million people have that wealth which i mean is a lot but that is probably all land and housing. Soooo yeah way less then 1% globally could really afford this boat.
You'd be surprised how many owners of 40-foot "yachts" own them instead of houses and live aboard full-time in order to save money (among other lifestyle reasons).
Fucking lol. The contortions!
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The reality is even the small ones aren't good for sea life. They're destroying the sea floor and it's quite detrimental to the ecosystem.
For someone with no prior knowledge - can you explain why is that?
I'm guessing he's complaining about either damage from anchors or toxic effects of anti-fouling paint.
I'm not sure if this is the exact study I read, but it's at least very similar. I've also seen tourists disposing of their waste and garbage directly into the sea.
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Oh no, the poor, poor 40' sailboat boat owners. Whatever shall we do.
I know plenty of people who are by no means rich who live on boats that size. Its basically the marine equivalent of living in a camper.
My best friend lived on one for more than a decade. he got for like $3k and put like $9k of work into it. Had his first kid living on that boat because he couldn't afford to live on land.
because he couldn't afford to live on land
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You might be surprised at how cheap these things can go. They are a lot to maintain but may not be so much to buy.
Oh yeah, tons of middle-class and poor people own sailboats…
You would be surprised. Walk around a small town marina sometime. You have the rich assholes but you also have 75 year olds who move their boat once a year, if that, and struggle to pay shore fees and maintenance on a fixed income.
Not much different from a trailer park.
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The age of man is over. The age of the orca has begun.
Yacht lol. It's a sailboat.
I'm on team Orca. One less rich fucks yacht taking up space.
I don't know who you consider a rich fuck but a yacht like this cost maybe $70k. It's not much different than owning a car.
And everyone has a $70k car, right?
The people in here defending private sailboats like it’s something anyone can do is insane.
Yeah let me just go out and drop $70k on a thing I use a few times a year in the water. Nothing rich-person about that…
I think it’s less about acting like it’s something anyone can do, and more about acting like it’s something people who aren’t ultrawealthy can do.
Having wealth isn’t inherently bad. It’s the distribution of wealth that has fucked our system.
Yes it’s just like owning a car! Which we primarily use to get to work and earn money to pay for the car!!! What do you do in a boat???? Oh ya!!! Not working and scoot around all day. Must be nice!
What do you do in a boat???
A boat like this one? You fuckin' live in it instead of a house (and at a much lower cost).
I mean, not this exact one from the article because it was a rental, but in general a lot of yachts in this ~40' range are owned by couples and used for the nautical equivalent of #vanlife.
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Lot's of people have hobby cars. I don't own a second car or a boat but I don't consider everyone who has one rich. Those people still go to work every day and save for retirement. We're talking about good wage job, not being a millionaire.
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I doubt the cost of owning a thing end with the price of purchase. At least for boat you have to park it somewhere, maintenance for a yacht probably gonna cost a lot because it's specialised. That's why it's usually for people with a lot of extra money to own one.
Shit, I hadn't thought of that, the poor, poor people who can afford $70,000 recreation craft. Won't someone think of the sailboat owners.
Where do you draw the line? Who do you consider a "rich fuck"? I know a carpenter who restored an ultra light airplane. This rich fuck better watch out when the class war comes!
If you're not living in a tent in a public park then you don't deserve to live.
And people wonder why everyone hates leftists.
The initial cost of a boat is like 1% of what the person ends up spending to maintain it.
There is a reason why people say that boats are, "a hole in the water to throw your money into"
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I am also Team Orca. It's their sea after all, and we're fucking it up.
Good for them. I am pro-Orca.
I am so far on the Orca's side on this. Get em!
I would like them to mob Bezo's yacht. One of them can leap over it Free Willy style, and snap up Mr. Bezos in midflight.
Yeah but no dead humans
As soon as there are dead humans, there will be dead orcas. Smart whales play it safe.
Orcas know not to leave witnesses if they do.
Those boats know what they did. I presume scraped some of their pod with propeller or something, they are revenging themselves.
Those boats know what they did. I presume scraped some of their pod with propeller or something, they are revenging themselves.
IIRC the current theory is that it's a game juvenile males started playing for fun.
Also, sailboats and orcas are not like powerboats and manatees. The notion that the boats somehow injured the orcas is not plausible for several reasons:
- A 40 foot sailboat tops out at about 10 mph, while orcas can swim over 3x that speed.
- Sailboat props are often directly behind the hull and surrounded by rudder, rather than protruding below it where it could hit an animal swimming below the boat.
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Orcas have almost never killed humans in recorded history. The recorded cases were either jailed orcas, or mistaken identity. There are however many documented cases of orcas offering catch to humans, and behavior like that. They "kill" boats, not humans.
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