Facts are propaganda?
PTB definitely
What's up with that instance btw? Is it another right wing echo chamber?
How is him saying Joe Biden should be executed for treason not advocating for violence?
It's not violence if you imply an institution, silly!
Can you please provide a quote and source where he says 'execute' and not 'death penalty' (a legal penalty) in reference to Joe Biden? If he actually said Joe Biden should be executed outside of the death penalty, I'll change my position on his assassination being justified.
The death penalty is the sentence. Execution is the act.
When someone is put to death by the state, the act itself is called an execution. They do it in a literal execution chamber.
Calling for the death penalty and calling for an execution mean the exact same thing.
Executions are state violence.
Be that as it may, there's still usually multiple trials, judges, reviews, juries, appeals, etc. and a long stay on death row before that state violence is allowed to be carried out, as opposed to a single man determining in an instant that someone's life has to end and carrying out the execution. Opinion on the death penalty aside, there is a difference between saying someone should receive the death penalty and saying someone should be executed.
Why list "trials, judges, reviews, juries, appeals" all of this as if it's more than one thing that often times doesn't work. Most of the convictions in the US are plea deals, they literally put you in a jail and tell you to say what they want or they'll make things worse and the only way you can avoid this is to have money to make bail.
If your boss steals from your wages you have to jump through hoops to try and get it back and they don't serve time. If you are accused of taking money from the company you are taken away by the state and put in jail till it can be proven you didn't. You can't expect me to trust that the system works in my favor when the system is clearly designed to not work in my favor.
I'm very aware of the flaws in the system. I'm just as disillusioned with it as you seem to be. I'm not defending the death penalty. I'm simply saying that calling for someone's execution and calling for someone to be given the death penalty are different.
It’s not though.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then.
I’m very aware of the flaws in the system.
And that's why you're standing up for Charlie Kirk's call for execution.
"I want my political enemies killed," versus "I want my political enemies killed by my political allies."
Very nuanced.
Jesus F Christ... do you right-wingers ever remove your heads from your own arrses, like... ever?
This was a very constructive comment, thank you for your input. I'm also not really a 'right-winger' but whatever.
Prefer fascist?
No, I don't.
If you don't want people to call you a fascist then stop acting like a fascist.
Goodbye.
execution: "The act or an instance of putting to death or being put to death as a lawful penalty."
Whatever he actually said (I don't know) what is the meaningful difference between "death penalty" and "execute"?
How explicitly an institution is involved. Obviously makes it okay and nonviolent.
Of all the hairs to split this was a pretty ridiculous one
remember to ask your admins to defederate, if they haven’t already
From both hilarious chaos and MAGA place.
Until the users start brigading, harassing, or other unsocial behaviors I don't think hilarious chaos should be defederated. I don't agree with her but I haven't personally seen instance wide bad behavior from its users.
The admin, mods and users are all toxic and the fediverse would be better without them.
It's called being proactive.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
If you want to wait and see the hate spread, setting up your own instance is an option.
Nah defed from the scum.
Yeah... no. Fuck both Toilet Paper USA and it's miserable excuse for a human being founder.
I don't think they were ever hiding those colors.
Black, white and red?
Oh they definitely do. we're totally completely different from them
Not unexpected from that shit hole of an instance. PTB and hair gross behavior. Glad our instance doesn't federate with them.
Big shocker this one
I've been saying that place is bad news for a while but no one listened to me and said "Oh they're not that bad, they just have dIFfeRenT oPiNIonS". PTB.
Admins who see this, you should really defed hilariouschaos and censure in fediseer. Instances like ExplodingHeads and Hilariouschaos cannot and should not be tolerated.
I misread this and thought the removed comment was by alice, lol.
This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
All posts should follow this basic structure:
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
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