Comparing network utilization of Lemmy, Kbin and PieFed - PieFed (2024) (join.piefed.social)

submitted 10 months ago by Kissaki@feddit.org to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Btw, this is a very old article. PieFed is lightyears ahead from where it was one and a half years ago. KBin ceased to exist. (Edit: And is continued with MBin now.) And I didn't follow Lemmy's development so I can make any statement there.

[-] breadguy@kbin.earth 18 points 10 months ago

kbin is mbin now

[-] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 6 points 10 months ago

Kbin still exist i’m on it

[-] markz@suppo.fi 14 points 10 months ago

You're on mbin, but it's pretty much the same thing.

[-] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 5 points 10 months ago

Hello fellow mbinauts!

[-] pgetsos@fedia.io 2 points 9 months ago

There are dozens of us! DOZENS!

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 7 points 10 months ago

Oh, hey! I suppose technically you're on MBin? But yeah, now that I'm aware... I regularly see kbin.earth pop up somewhere.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 2 points 10 months ago

Would be interesting to see how the numbers compare to today.

[+] cloudless@piefed.social 14 points 10 months ago

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[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

Lemmy is plenty fast, just the UI is seriously bloated. Using lemmy api on a third party app is a smooth af.

This is one of the reasons using PieFed on mobile feels as good if not better than native apps. The page loads super fast.

If you're using piefed.social or any of the other popular piefed instances, they're using CloudFlare. So ya, it'll be faster because they have CDN all across the globe. Also your login credentials and tracking data will be sent to a cloudflare server without user knowledge.

So ya, I'd rather have a few milliseconds delay and avoid all that tracking and MITM. Thanks though.

[-] moseschrute@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I don’t think caching benefits Lemmy and PieFed content that is changing very rapidly (e.g. new comments). That type of caching makes more sense for Lemmy/PieFed images.

However, bot traffic can get very expensive these days with all the AI crawlers. Cloudflare offers very good tooling to block these bots. I know there are other open source tools and I’m not defending Cloudflare, but it’s also easy to criticize when you’re not the person running the instance. From what I’ve seen, all the admins work very hard to keep the threadiverse running. I’m guessing that’s why a lot of instances are using Cloudflare.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 9 months ago

Fair, though worth pointing out that the choice to use CloudFlare is an instance-level decision, not a software-level one, and the PieFed software is still faster than Lemmy regardless of the choice to use CloudFlare. And this despite showing 5-fold more posts, iirc it was a roughly 25-fold speedup per post shown for the main page.

[-] passepartout@feddit.org 5 points 10 months ago

I love how fast it is, but the PWA is missing some features like showing likes + dislikes + ratio. Maybe I just didn't search enough tough.

The crosspost grouping feature is a godsend. I hope Clients like Interstellar are going to implement it.

[-] wjs018@piefed.social 7 points 10 months ago

As somebody that has made contributions to improve the PWA responsiveness, the difference between touch and cursor controls can be tough sometimes. The css framework we use (bootstrap) generally handles it well, but the pop-ups are one area where I'm not really happy with it, but I don't have a better solution yet.

[-] moseschrute@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Depends what you’re looking for. PieFed devs themselves said Blorp is very good. It’s just a different take. If you like the official PoeFed UI, use that. If you want something more modern, imo use Blorp.

Full disclosure, I’m the dev behind Blorp.

[-] wjs018@piefed.social 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I just want to point out here that this blog post is old at this point (published February 2024). I believe that mbin in particular has made improvements in this regard. Also, we have added some features to piefed, and introduced a little bit of new Javascript/css. I am not sure exactly how this would compare today.

this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2025

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