Turning 30? They’ve all turned 30.
For real. Already passed 40 here.
There's a few years left, 96 and up
'96 and up are not 90s kids, that's Gen Z .
You have to actually remember the 90s to qualify as a 90s kid, which basically excludes anyone younger than a Zillenial. If you were born in 1996-1999, you were an infant or very young in the 90s, so your memories of the time period are going to be vague at best. You can't relate to 90s kids.
Hell, smartphones had already replaced iPods by the time anyone born 1996-1999 was in middle school. That ain't no 90s kid lol. 90s kids had a cassette Walkman and dial-up internet when they were in middle school. We were still rocking CD players and flip phones even into high school. Smartphones weren't a thing until college.
ay yo fr fr — people born 1997+ = Gen Z, 1981–1996 = Millennials. facts.
but lowkey memory flex ain’t everything: being a “90s kid” vibe = grew up with 90s culture/trends during your formative years, so someone born 1996 might catch some 90s vibes while a 1999 baby probs won’t remember squat.
still, calling 1996–1999 “not 90s kids” is kinda cap if you mean strict generational cutoffs — 1996 is widely used as the millennial cutoff (Pew et al.). so both takes hit different lanes: one’s about birth-year labels, one’s about lived memories.
Only about half of them have turned 30 so far...
90s kid doesn't mean you were born in the 90s. It means you experienced your childhood in the 90s. So if you were too young to remember, it doesn't count.
My personal cut off for 'are you a Millenial' is 'do you know in significant detail where you were and what you were doing when 9/11 happened?'
If no, because you were too young, you're a Zoomer, Gen A, etc.
Yep, my definition of Millenial is mass psychic trauma based.
This is basically correct imo, the typical definition is from '81 through '96, you could probably roughly have a decently vivid memory of your parents freaking the fuck out from yourself as a 5 year old.
But anyways, yeah, I was born when the Soviet Union existed, but I don't consider myself an 80s kid, as I was born at the tail end of that decade and ... don't really remember experiencing much of it, directly.
... Well, beyond mullets, 'big' female hair, and... 80s styled glasses.
That is very US-Centric though.
The term Millenial orginally and specifically, academically and etymylogically in general usage... refers to generational cohorts of USAmericans.
As does Baby Boomers. As does Gen X.
You can maybe make an argument than Gen Z / Zoomers and Gen A / Alpha are more globalized, due to the massive proliferation and normalization of digital culture... but they are again still based off of a naming convention schema describing USAmericans.
So yes, I am using a US-centric definition for a US-centric term.
If ya'll want to come up with your own terms, I'm all for it, the US has long had and still does have waaaaayyy too much influence over many aspects of general internet culture, global culture in general, the other economies and societies of the world, etc.
I don't agree with this at all to be honest. I'm French, and the baby boom was very much a thing there. The term might have been coined in the US but the demographics events behind it very much happened in much of Europe post-WW2, and for example my parents referred to themselves as such long before we started having a shared online global culture. As for millennials, I'm pretty sure the entire world changed millennium at the same time, why would only Americans be allowed to use the very obvious term?
I've encapsulated my gigantic response so as to not further blow up the formatting of this thread.
Yep, the baby boom happened in many places... the term 'baby boom' and 'baby boomer' and then 'boomer' are very much US-centric if you look through newspapers, academic publications.
Also... you're telling me your French speaking parents referred to them as 'baby boomers', as in... a loan word, from English, as opposed to something that might more naturally arise from French?
bébé d'expansion?
Granted, I do not speak French, that particular guess may be wildly unrealistic in some way, but I would think that general linguistic and etymylogical concepts apply generally.
https://www.etymonline.com/fr/word/baby%20boom
Assuming google translate is doing a decent job of translating that to English for me, I am fairly confident this literally says the French term "baby-boom(er)" is a loan term, from English, specifically from the US.
Anyway, I am not saying that people should not be free to use or adapt terms from other languages, that would be stupid and also impossible to enforce, especially stupid coming from an English speaker such as myself, with English essentially being a bastard mutant step child of at least three different languages smashing into each other.
I would be unable to go to the karaoke bar, sing a song about a latent gestalt consciousness, grab a bahn mi to much on, and then further discuss the relative 'lingua franca' status of varying languages of the world, all whilst doing my best to stave off ennui.
What I am saying is that criticizing my US Centric definition of a US Centric term on the grounds that the definition itself is too US Centric... that is stupid.
.........
Is 'millennial' a commonly used generational cohort word present in many languages right now?
Of course.
However... I would argue my definition still holds.
If you can remember 9/11 happening, generally, you are some kind of a millenial, you would identify as such, you would use that term.
Yep, 9/11 happened to the US.
And it was the biggest news story on the planet at the time.
Governments around the world reached out to the US with formal announcements of sympathy.
Newscasters and print media ran the story for days, weeks, in many countries.
It was a pretty big deal, the world hegemon having its financial center directly attacked.
Markets all the world freaked out, to varying degrees.
And I could casually argue that generally, roughly, though of course not as directly traumatizing to non USAmericans, it was a bigger deal in countries that were culturally/economically connected to the US, and thus inhabitants of those countries were/are more likely to later use a fairly direct equivalent of 'millennial' as a generational cohort term... as a loan word, from our media's intial popularization of the term, to decry our avocado toast habits and whichever stagnant and poorly operated line of shitty franchise restaurants we are apparently responsible for murdering.
Why not use the local language word for 'millenium' as a basis, instead of adopting one from English?
But to further nuance this, I am sure you would point out that the English word millennial is of French origin, and you would be correct.
So sure, this obviously makes more sense as a wholly and truly French word, we English speakers did after all, more or less borrow something like 70% of our vocabulary from French.
But then we can refer back to my actual proposed definition:
I bet you do actually remember 9/11 being on the TV, in the papers, being discussed, to at least degree, if you are a millennial, who speaks French, and was roughly 5 years old or older, in France, when it happened.
If I am wrong about that, please let me know.
Yes, I fully agree with the point about remembering 9/11 as a millennial, and wasn't commenting about that, I just disagree about the one where you said generational terms are a US-only thing :)
And yes, we use the English term for baby boom, it's a loan word, just like you say "croissant" (or at least, attempt to, haha).
Hah, my mangled attempt at correct pastry pronounciation is something like:
Kwah-san(t).
I am sure that is a bit butchered by proper French standards though, haha!
Unfortunately, if you try to pronounce loan words properly, by the rules of the language they come from, most Americans (very wrongly imo) consider this to be you acting pretentious.
On that note:
I have spent a good amount of time doing karate and so have spoken with a good dreal of native Japanese speakers...
Karaoke is not carry-oh-kee.
It is kah-rah-oh-ke.
Karate is not kara-tee.
It is kah-rah-tay.
... I frankly have no fucking clue how we managed to fuck up karaoke as bad as we did.
9/11 was significant global news...
Yes and no, I heard about it in the UK but it didn't mean much. I was about 10 at the time. Usually when people talk about it online people of a similar age in the US seem to have had more of an impact.
It wasn't something we talked about, teachers didn't put it on or have a talk with all of us about it. Just heard about it on TV the next morning as the TV was on and oh that's a thing.
But it wasn't some shared trauma thing
We do accept those born in 99 but I'm afraid they won't get it
90s kids were mostly born in the 80s. If you don't remember the 90s, you aren't a 90s kid.
"90's kids" always stuck me as a cultural thing more than being tied to a specific decade. Like if you were alive while Nickelodeon Studios was colorful and fun, then you're a 90's kid.
Unless you have memories of the 90s you’re not a 90s kid. If you were born in 97 you are objectively not a 90s kid. You’re a 90s baby.
90s kids are in our late 30s early 40s.
Bro, we in or almost in out 40s.
I wanted to say this, were 40. Even more sad.
I wish I could go back in time just to tell my younger self "Hey Kid, don't get your hopes up", save myself a lot of pointless struggle...
I realized recently that teenage-me was right about a lot of things I believed about the future, and I don't know how I'm supposed to feel about it.
It's like my anxiety is doing a victory dance on my hope's grave.
I have no issue entering 30s, but i have a lot of issue with my hair and health leaving me.
1 month 13 days left...
EDIT: And to not make this bland: I pretty much gave up on life, once I realized I won't get anything that a young adult would have. I'm just an expendable meat robot that is not even seen as human. I get blamed for everything that goes wrong, even though I have minimal wiggle room. So, good luck to everyone. AI is about to make just being human not enough.
GenX just nodding silently
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