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Blue Maga already ready to blame the left for his defeat. (hexbear.net)

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[-] WatDabney@fedia.io 39 points 2 months ago

At this point, every attempt at this ludicrously dishonest spin can and should be met with the same one-word response - "Mamdani."

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 37 points 2 months ago

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

"Vote blue no matter who" - PUMA PAC alumni.

[-] RedSeries 26 points 2 months ago

Damned if we vote, damned if we don't. We're not allowed to criticize or call out behavior or opinions that harm us. I guess the upside is I get to enjoy a little "eww"phoria for being treated like a woman when it comes to having my concerns taken seriously. Fuck I hate living here.

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 21 points 2 months ago

“First they came for Palestine, but I told them to vote Kamala anyway because I wasn’t Palestinian…”

[-] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 19 points 2 months ago

"Then they came for the trans folk, because I told them nobody cared about Palestinians, and I wasn't trans anyway..."

[-] kittenzrulz123 7 points 2 months ago

"Then they came for the undocumented migrants, because I told them nobody cared about Trans people, and those people have dark skin so they make me uncomfortable"

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Jesus, you people make up things in your head and get mad at them just like MAGA

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

You people act reprehensibly toward vulnerable minorities and then gaslight anyone who notices.

Just. Like. maga.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Tankies aren't serious people and often discourage a shift left by abstaining from voting

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Anyone who wants better than a choice between genocide or genocide with a light patch where the BLM sticker used to be must be a tankie.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well they aren't serious about the material results and neither are the tankies

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

You got what you wanted either way.

[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

I don't think you know what a tankie is.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

Proof that leftists don't vote?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Bald assertion, repeated with enough frequency. Nothing more.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Go to the .ml serversvand remind them why its important and that there are more than just presidential elections. They'll put more effort onto justify their no show than taking an evening to do so.

To be clear I'm not even disagreeing with their complaints. But their discourse on not voting keeps us form moving left. Voting is an important part. Harm minimization is still important to many vulnerable people.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago

Go to the .ml serversvand remind them why its important and that there are more than just presidential elections.

Who the hell cares about .ml? Those are actual tankies. You keep throwing that word around, but it's not synonymous with "leftist I don't like." What group are we talking about here, tankies or leftists?

But their discourse on not voting keeps us form moving left.

I'm telling you to back this up with numbers if you want to be taken seriously.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I'm telling you to back this up with numbers if you want to be taken seriously.

Search them yourself. No shows have won pretty much every elections for decades. There are States that show even Texas being able to flip, but people no show. We lefties are the ones making a move and then not showing. We don't even run third party to spoil and show our significance

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

Search them yourself.

"Do your own research" are we?

No shows have won pretty much every elections for decades.

Proof that those no shows are coming from the left?

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://fairvote.org/resources/voter-turnout/#voter-turnout-by-state

Is that hard to find? Still look at it and over several years. Texas in particular is none voting. Progressive ideas just poll better individually too. That means its our elections to lose as lefties. The fact Rs are working overtime to further disenfranchise is because they know they are unpopular. Many places could flip

E: look at tx in 2014. If all college DSA, greens, and such showed up several races could have tipped due to how few Rs showed too... Its our game to win and we aren't playing

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

If all college DSA, greens, and such showed up several races could have tipped due to how few Rs showed too…

...and if someone had treated them like constituents instead of hostages, they might have. Democrats consider such behavior beneath them. Who do those children think they are? Dick Cheney?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

You keep making claims without offering any sources for them. Like hell we know American voter turnout is low, doubly so for quite a few red states, but that's not enough to back up your claim that it's leftists not voting that's tipping the scale rather than centrists or undecided people. Like you have still offered no proof that leftists aren't showing up.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Go to the .ml serversvand remind them why its important and that there are more than just presidential elections.

Yeah, we know. It's why your wing of the party is trying so hard to ratfuck Mamdani and Fateh. And why they succeeded in ratfucking David Hogg. It's why they ratfucked Jessica Cisneros, Jamaal Bowman, and Cori Bush.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago

Any other candidate if people actually thought for themselves

[-] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

How about you went to the streets before you got a duopoly of genocide apologists to become your only option? Oh no, but but but, my team was bEtTeR.

But nooooo, you were fine with genocide as long as it didn't affect you, and the multiple wars abroad before that. And now, you guys have to pretend to protest the dismantling of your own nation. Seems very much like karma, doesn't it?

So, well done. The system led to Trump, not the opinions on genocide in Palestine. US has a history of being fine with worse. If you can't see that and find blame someone else to blame, you're too far in your own ass to see it.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Dude with this mindset no one could ever live a normal life. At any given moment in your life there is slavery, genocide, whatever going on. Any of which could be a reason to take to the streets in your mind. So since you're not in the streets about slavery going on in the world you're fine with it? You're not in the streets about sex trafficking are you, I guess you just don't care about sex trafficking and it's victims because it doesn't impact you. This is how you sound.

But of course, you lecture the masses oh wise one. Tell us the error of our ways, how did we stray from the path only you can see?

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 7 points 2 months ago

At any given moment in your life there is slavery, genocide, whatever going on. Any of which could be a reason to take to the streets in your mind.

I would why it isn’t a reason for you to be protesting, but then again we both know the reason for that.

”I’m white, liberal, and fascists like Trump aren’t coming for me.

Must be nice to be able to turn your morality on and off like a switch, and only care about shit when it’s time to fund raise.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago

If your country is doing sex trafficking and slavery (the latter at least is true) then yes, that is something you should take to the streets for. Something happening and something being done with your tax dollars are two completely different things. Don't project your lack of moral principles and/or spine on other people.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I don't even know half the horrible things the US is doing. And the EU is doing plenty of messed up stuff too. Same with Asia. So wait, every single person should be in the streets then? What country are you from? Why are you not in the streets?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

I don't even know half the horrible things the US is doing.

Why? You have the sum total of humanity's knowledge between your fingertips and you still can't be bothered to at least educate yourself? "I don't give a shit about other people and neither should you" is not the flex you think it is.

So wait, every single person should be in the streets then?

Literally yes. By the way, plenty of people in your own country are marching and organizing against for-profit prisons (aka slavery). As I said above, don't project your own lack of principles on others.

Why are you not in the streets?

Because I'll be imprisoned for years and likely tortured. How about you?

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

You can go ahead and get rid of the besides Harris part of your sentence there since she didn't.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Keep gloating that your only policy was going to be enacted and that none of the rest of us had any meaningful choice.

If harris had done the right thing, you would have voted for trump.

[-] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I absolutely answered your question. you just dont like the reality of it. not my problem.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Gloat that such a choice was unavailable.

[-] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"Vote blue no matter who" crowd on their way to solely blame (realistically) 50-100k leftists who abstained either due to their views on electorialism or Palestine.

I've seen so much braindead shit online about the loss and "what could be done different", like statistics showing that if only uni educated people voted then Kamala would have won and people supporting this idea, making lists of every leftist who said they wouldn't vote to punish them later or something, prohibiting MAGA voters from voting ever again, etc. These same people then proceed to cry fascism.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

And just like that, centrists have always hated both MST3k and Rifftrax.

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 10 points 2 months ago

We just can't have anything nice, can we? Locking this post due to the amount of shitlibs coming where they specifically aren't wanted.

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