I'll stay on GrapheneOS as long as possible. And if it stops, I'll get a Linux phone.

I've been looking into pure Linux Phones like Ubuntu touch and the Kali Mobile thing. Shame that its limited to hardware that I can't find here

I haven't fully researched that topic yet but should I be safe with e/os?

Planning to become a primary iphone user with a PostmarketOS side phone. Want I want in the future is that if I'm using Android apps, it's through Waydroid or Android Translation layer. Then hopefully in my lifetime I see non-Android Linux become popular. Or a non-commercial organization take lead on an Android fork that gets significant adoption

I sideload two apps and when I can't use them anymore is when I can't trust android. One of them is package disabler pro. I use it to keep androids bloat and spyware shutdown.

Wait until it affects me. Just like when I ditched Chrome. Just like when I ditched Windows. I used Vanced long after they were stopped, didn't switch to ReVanced until Vanced literally could not play anymore. I'm the latest adopter, for sure. By the time I make a change, the path of what I want to do has been well-tread by others.

I've been using LineageOS for years, and have been planning for my next phone to be a used Pixel running GrapheneOS. While this announcement from Google sucks shit, it won't affect me I don't think. More worrying are the other changes in the pipeline that would stop development of GrapheneOS. I am dying for a working Linux phone.

What about Aurora Store and F-Droid?

It affects only people using factory roms and google play services. I don't remember the last time I used a factory rom, I've use microg for nearly a decade, (and I'm a mod of !microg@discuss.tchncs.de) and I'm not planning to change this workflow even when I will replace my phone, so I'm pretty sure I'm not affected at all.

This seems like an ideal opportunity for samsung to fork android.

If this actually happens, my next phone will probably be a dumb phone, unless I can find a true linux phone.

Fairphone makes an effort to open source all code including device trees and encourages the developement of custom roms and alternative oses like Linux mobile. So I'll just switch to a Fairphone with a custom ROM.

I won't switch to mobile linux though since I don't want to go back to an unsandboxed environment.

I am hoping, that I can switch to a Fairphone with a custom ROM til next year. If I can't get the money for it until then, I Am just hoping that it will be implemented through an android Update, because in that case it won't affect me, since I Am already stuck on Android 11 or so.

My phone only updates until Jan 2026 so I'll be fine. I reckon they'll allow installing via adb still as otherwise people won't be able to develop new android apps

gonna stop buying ARM based devices until they figure their FOSS shit out to the extent x86 had in 2022

Well, I don't like throwing away devices I can still do something with, so I'm going to keep using the android devices I have until they stop working. After that, I'm not actually sure. I don't want to completely give up on mobile gaming because I do like having an easy way to play games away from home, but I haven't found a good alternative yet. Mobile Linux devices either aren't worth their price or, if they are, I have no way to purchase them.

I would just install a mobile Linux distro onto newer android devices but on top of the fact that you can't just install Linux onto android devices like you can on PCs, I've heard that, at least with some manufactures, that's soon to be impossible as well.

Wait and see, then panic if affected.

PinePhone?

Wait and see. The only reason for buying any hardware is to run on it the software I want to use.

I think the only thing I sideload is AdGuard, and they're already verified. So it shouldn't really affect me.

I'm still against it on principal.

I'm probably being too optimistic, but they've gotta have a switch in dev settings to disable this check, right? I really hope they're not truly, full stop, not allowing you to side load apps that don't meet this stupid requirement.

FFS they just had that awful Pixel 10 launch event where they talked about Android being open and what not.

The only reason I'm on a Google rom is because I can't get confirmation that I can cast Netflix to a Chromecast with microG. It's the only Google ecosystem thing that matters to me. If they try to break my phone then I finally get to get over that hump, no loss. Almost everything in my phone is F-Droid ("side-loaded" is such a loaded phrase)

I'm also hopeful that this move will get struck down given the recent anti competitive practices cases they've lost.

Start watching YouTube in Firefox, I guess. I can't deal with ads and I'm not paying one of the richest companies in the world an ever increasing monthly fee for the rest of my life.

I already moved back to a paper calendar in my diary, two years ago. my passwords go into firefox and also a paper contact book. recently google has started interfering with the firefox manager🥳 but mostly I have disabled it. I think it probably still captures keys but I dunno. chicken and egg - how can it ask to save the password if it didn't sniff the firefox page?

Home is now a rasberry pi/steam deck/linux combo with still one comp running windows for games but turned off most of the time. I don't take notes outside of sending to a group of myself in signal. I put all the android games on a cheap tablet and I am contemplating grapheneos for the phone, but for now using a window manager from fdroid, with cuts down on a lot of the google assistant fuckery.

overall, I am not sure. I think as long as I can use the fdroid apps, manager and clock, I am mostly ok. I leave the screen on and plugged in to keep google from killing the alarm clock, but I am keeping an eye out for a nice alarm clock in the future, which maybe chats to home assistant on the pi, because I do want accurate time.

The biggest use I make of my phone, and why I have had a pixel for so long, is taking pictures - to show what I do, how I take things apart, what I need to do, parts and serial numbers, hardware. buying/selling/banking.

The camera in my pocket and signal are my killer apps.

As long as I can turn off frickin google assistant, I will probably still use android, honestly. But I started making non-critical parts of my life not-android a while back. My utopia is a private device centered on me and my family, not a data pump for a corp.

google does not provide, even as well as a paper calendar.

chuckles nervously in GrapheneOS

I have no plans to make a shift away from Android based purely on this. I already maintain fairly platform agnostic software and service usage patterns just for these kinds of reasons. So just calling smartphones "done" as an active interest and just using whatever is the cheapest thing that gets the job done for as long as possible is not a very hard thing for me to do if it comes to that.

Does anyone know how graphine performs on foldables? The big reason I haven't just switched to it is a healthy skepticism about it's ability to handle the two screens well.

I'm on eOS, so this specific thing will be a non-issue.

I already have an old dumbphone as backup. It might actually get some use going forward. Installing Linux on my current main phone may be in order.

Another thing I'm thinking of is potentially combining the dumbphone with a tiny laptop, say 10-12 inch. We used to have this category of device in the early 2010s. With today's manufacturing it could be made to fit into a large coat pocket or purse. Need to look up if anyone is making these at this time.