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In memory of my 95 extended cab

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Yeah I really don't get it.

I drive an old pickup truck with a standard sized bed. Every time I've needed the bed of the truck, I've needed it to be as big as it is. If it was as short as modern truck beds I'd be making more trips or hiring a U-Haul or something.

I get a normal, functional bed AND it's still a normally sized vehicle that's easy to drive and park. When this vehicle eats shit, whoever makes a normal sized pickup is getting my money.

I thought the bed size was chosen as standard so it would fit a standard 4x8 sheet of plywood. What's the point of it can't fit that?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

I'd be pissed if I bought a pickup that can't fit a damn couch

[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

It's because they're emotional support vehicles for suburban dudes who have an incredibly fragile ego. What they need is a van or a "sensible" SUV or even just y'know a fuckin car but these men are too sensitive and scared to drive one of those so they buy a truck as a family car instead.

It's kind of pathetic honestly.

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

2 things:

  1. The new truck has 4 doors. That's a crew cab.
  2. Part of the reason for today's massive trucks is a change in CAFE regs starting in 2012 that bases fuel economy standards on vehicle footprint. It's easier to make a larger footprint than a more efficient vehicle.
[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

It’s ~~easier~~ more profitable to make ~~a larger footprint~~ the consumer buy a larger vehicle than a more efficient vehicle.

Minor fixes, spot on otherwise.

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[-] Shane_McGoomy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I really want a Kei Truck, and I can't be the only one.

[-] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

OMG, there are two people in my neighborhood with them and I want one soooo bad. Only problem is I need to haul stuff to the landfill and that requires getting on the interstate which I don't think they're rated for in my state.

[-] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

How else do you expect to fit two morbidly obese American parents and their morbidly obese children?

[-] Machinist@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

98 Ranger XLT extended cab. I've added trailer brake control for livestock hauling and a modern stereo with bluetooth, handsfree calling, and a sealed 10" sub cause I'm a metalhead.

It's got the pushrod V6 that will last forever, in 99 they switched over to those awful self-destructing cassette timed V6s.

It throws no codes. Redid intake manifold and valve gaskets about 18 months ago, but I've got increased Idle RPM and minor oil leak again. So, I have to redo it, looking for a more permanent fix.

My truck does 10x the work most of those oversized pavement princess trucks do. It's a little truck for our little play farm.

[-] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

that's one sexy looking truck! practical and it has a nice color!

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I see F350 work trucks all the time but they rarely have stock beds, most of them run a full dedicated tool box usually with ladder racks or a custom bed made of diamond sheet. Same deal for the 550 and 650 if they aren't box trucks.

Your truck reminds me of the garage kept spare cars I see on farms. Sometimes they just live outside near the house but they get driven. Often to pull the bigger trucks out of mud somehow

[-] Machinist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Yup. I have a play farm, not a real farm. Real farming is an industrial process that requires duallys and such. However, those are also real trucks. Beat to shit, tools in the bed, not lifted so much you can't load them, etc. They look the part. I do also have a 98 Chevy 3500 box truck. Drinks way too much gas to use it for anything other than its purpose, don't even have it registered right now, bad cats.

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

I know some play farmers with dualies. One is for building a fence, one is for towing a 5th wheel and a toy hauler. The fence builder is similarly unregistered because it's "expensive enough to maintain"

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My current daily driver, which I won't upload my own photo of because it's literally enough to dox me (by people who know me IRL), is one of these:

It's not an SUV, but air suspension allows it to rise taller than some crossover SUVs, providing decent clearance. And on the road you can lower and stiffen it for better handling (or keep it in the comfort position for normal height and soft suspension). Both axles are always being driven, with front and rear diff locks being electronic, based on the ESP system.

It doesn't do as much work as your truck, but then I don't live on a farm. If I did, I'd have a truck too. It does however do significantly more work than any of those pavement princesses. In particular, it's been used for towing trailers, I've had the entire trunk, with rear seats folded down, filled when I moved most of my furniture. I've gone off road in it because I needed to go to the woods. Everything was muddy afterwards.

I'll use yank units for the fun of it, so it's got around 250k miles on it. It's a remapped 3.0 diesel, so it does over 40 mpg very easily unloaded, and can keep up with pretty much anything on the road because of the ridiculous amount of torque it puts out. I paid less than 2k EUR for it (paid pretty much exactly 2000 USD given current exchange rates actually). With all the torque it has, you could also easily tow way more than the legal limit of such a vehicle - which I've never needed to.

It's also rusty, scratched up, dented, etc. Some of the unnecessary extras don't work (park distance control? lol no, it's shorted out) It's not the best car I've owned, but it's the best one I've had for getting shit done. 3 months and 6000 miles so far, I've spent ~500 to replace some safety-critical neglected parts (brake, suspension) some of which will last the next 100k miles and some hopefully indefinitely (updated to a newer, more reliable ABS module).

It wasn't cheap for the first person who bought it, but neither are modern trucks. It was cheap to buy used though, unlike trucks. Parts are cheaper too, but that's partly because I'm in Europe.

[-] Machinist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I wish I had AWD/4WD sometimes. That's really the only thing I don't like about the truck.

Before this truck, I had a Malibu, kept folding the seats down, toting 2x4's and such. Ripped sheets plywood in the parking lot with a battery powered saw to fit it in before.

Parts are still pretty cheap for this truck here. They made so many of them. I only gave $3500 for it, but that was before prices on used little trucks jumped so high.

I'm hoping I don't ever have to replace this truck, but if I do, I would be looking at a V6 minivan, especially if I could get in AWD. Gut one of those, and it's basically a little truck. I think it would do everything I needed, better on fuel costs, etc. I'm not much for lifitimg suspensions, but a truck-minivan with AWD I might lift a little to get into standard truck ground clearance range.

Trucks/utility vehicles are tools and should be used and maintained like a good tool. If it doesn't have a few scratches and dents, it's not a real tool.

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[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

So today's 'trucks' have just slightly more storage space than my old Mini Cooper did. Neat. Like can you legit fit like a bike or 4-wheeler in that?

[-] brenstar@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

I needed a new vehicle this year and knew I wanted a small truck to help with my forever ongoing home renovation needs. A Ranger was definitely what I was targeting before ultimately falling in love with an 88 Jeep Comanche long bed. Perfect size truck that looks Comically small when parked next to any modern day truck

[-] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

They're a vanishing breed. I was searching Autotrader for a compact pickup, and the only thing I found was a Mazda B2300 ... from 1986. I can't use that - I'd be too worried about damaging it. It's a collector's item.

[-] brenstar@programming.dev 3 points 23 hours ago

I definitely feel that! I bought it knowing that I will have to do all my own maintenance and repairs, which is terrifying but doable. I had to promise myself that if it ever gets wrecked, I’ll have to restore it at any cost, because there simply aren’t that many left out there.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago
[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

For the sake of bigger profits.

[-] mcbenavides85@piefed.social 88 points 1 day ago

It’s not like people with trucks haul anything nowadays. Just a status symbol.

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[-] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is all a result of the absurdly idiotic chicken tax + American automobile companies refusing to build small trucks

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago

Most new trucks are basically just luxury SUVs for men who stomp their feet and say they want the boyyyy car, not the mom one.

Note to any offended truck owners: I said most! Some of my best friends are truck owners! :>

Actually true! And the best part is that my truck-owning friends are petite women. But they both do actual farm work in addition to their day jobs, so their trucks are beat up and dirty workhorses.

They insist on lending me a truck any time I need to do a big lumber run to home depot. You know that old saying about instead of owning X you want multiple generous friends who own X, lol.

In addition, I have been busy this summer and I have literally spent a couple grand on lumber for what is hopefully a once in a lifetime project. Believe it or not, I'm still driving an old Mazda3 and didn't have to buy a truck! (Granted, my initial purchase was so big that I would have paid the delivery fee even if I daily drove a Canyonero with a trailer)

[-] frezik 7 points 1 day ago

And those people who do buy trucks would often be happy with a much smaller one. They don't exist. No, not even the Maverick. That's "well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it" for trucks.

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[-] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 day ago

Having a tiny bed is totally OK because the people that drive these silly things dont put anything back there anyway. They even have locking hard covers on them.

These aren't trucks, they are lifestyle accessory vehicles for people who feel the need to prove that they are a big boy.

People that work in trades, construction or other manual work drive a van or they rock an old Chevy cruze to the jobsite. Why would they waste their own money on a truck when it doesn't make them any more money?

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[-] bufalo1973@europe.pub 14 points 1 day ago

And now the Orange Turd wants these shits in Europe.

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago

They are already here, usually driven by dudes who can barely see over the top of the steering wheel.

[-] ATPA9@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

The dude that drives one of the oversized ones where I live looks exactly like all the people who do selfies in their truck. Balding, those glasses and weraing a cap. His truck has the fucking punisher logo too. And to round it off it also had a sticker of an AI character company on it.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Not likely to happen. Both by culture and directly street/parking/garage size.

I had an 06 Ford Ranger (actually a Mazda). RWD with a 4 cylinder and a 5 speed. No frills at all. That was a phenomenal truck. You could put snow tires on it, throw some sand bags in the bed, and go just about anywhere.

[-] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago

I loved the Ford Mazda connection. I wish Ford hadn't sold off their stake in the company. My current car is a Mazda 3 and the (Mazda designed) 4-cylinder in it was also used in later model Rangers before they were discontinued.

[-] PraiseTheSoup@midwest.social 2 points 15 hours ago

I had a 98 Ford Probe with a Mazda four cylinder engine. I loved that car. The flip up headlights never failed me even in Minnesota winter ice storms.

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[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago

The Slate is the currently the only modern option for a mini-truck (if it releases).

[-] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Telo is also struggling to get to market and will be a much better choice than Slate if they make it. They’re not nearly as well funded though.

[-] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I'm not sure I would say that they're struggling, though correct me if I'm wrong. They're a very young company with a very small headcount that's gotten a pretty incredible amount of work done in a short time.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The Telo is also quite a nice small size, but unfortunately double the MSRP, with the base model costing 41k. It's targeting a different market segment. The Slate's theoretical low cost is a big draw, despite it being less featured (that's actually what makes it appealing, IMO).

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[-] Lexam@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Why can't they make the Maverick a 2 door!

[-] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Sales figures don’t support it. There is some demand, but not enough to redesign the platform to support 2-door. That’s a consequence of unibody design, 2 door is a completely different engineering from 4 door.

2 door trucks are barely available for consumers these days, you practically have to get them off the fleet lots.

Small electric trucks are coming. Slate is marketing like crazy to drive up demand. Telo is struggling to get to market. CAFE killed small gas trucks. That’s probably OK, electric is more suited for small trucks anyway, just need truck people to understand how much better electric is on small platforms vs 4cyl.

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