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[-] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago

Ya know, maybe the US did it. But, (and I know this is a hot take) maybe China is lying. I know that’s crazy, because China is a bastion of truth. I know that China is known the world over for being fair and balanced. Not since George Washington and the cherry tree has there been such an honest institution as the CCP. But I also feel that they could be lying. I mean who knows.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Also, yeah? Who cares? Let's talk about the countless times Chinese agents have been caught infiltrating US systems. If we're accepting that this is just a part of spycraft in the Internet era then you don't get to bitch and whine when you catch someone else doing it

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Everyone's been bitching and whining about catching others spies, though?

[-] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Who cares about American propaganda?

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Tbh, I make it a point to ignore any bad things my government does. The US is literally saving the world, obviously we should be able to spy on whoever we want.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Opinions from anybody who can't even spell CPC correctly can be safely discarded.

[-] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

It's just another triggered Yank

[-] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

America accuses China of cyberattacks all the time. Yet I don't see many Americans questioning government narrative there.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

OT but I love your username lol

[-] generalpotato@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Good. We need more of it since the CCP has made a habit of targeting US infrastructure and civilian targets.

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, because escalation has worked so well in the past.

[-] Kata1yst@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

And what do you propose a sovereign nation who's citizens, business, and assets are constantly under attack from state sponsored actors do? Bend over?

This isn't escalation. It's minimal tit-for-tat.

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Constantly under attack? Remember that even back when the KMT was in power, Chiang Kai-Shek was (rightfully) suspicious that the CIA was plotting a coup to overthrow him.

Moreover, when the CCP was rising with Mao Zedong, the CIA used something like $100 million USD at the time to try to create a third group in China that could combat the other two (the KMT and CCP) with the explicit goal of undermining Mao's power.

China's existing actions don't even come close to tit-for-tat and America's continued subversive actions show that nothing has changed whatsoever. The US still thinks it can fuck around in the domestic affairs of other countries and leave unscathed without retribution.

[-] Alpharius@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago

China crying when the US does the same thing in return. Why does the CCP act so childish ?

No really why ? They are actively using exported digital and electronics goods to spy on everyone. They try to catch political dissidents outside their borders, spy on several government infrastructures and try to instigate a new form of colonialism in Africa, so what exactly are they crying about ?

I really despise these hypocrites.

[-] library_napper@monyet.cc 5 points 2 years ago

How about we publish instances of such crimes by all governments and hold all of them accountable?

[-] Kaffemannen@feddit.nu 2 points 2 years ago

Well, it's just common sense to treat others the same way you expect them to treat you. In a ~~perfect~~ more pleasant world neither the west or china would feel the need to spy on each other, but we are where we are.

[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

It’s for the cameras and their own citizens.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 10 points 2 years ago

Cry more, Xi

[-] yoz@aussie.zone 8 points 2 years ago

China and US are a reap problem to this world.

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago

Quiet, the upper halfers are talking

[-] Ubermeisters@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago

I mean doesn't this just mean at most, that the software used was developed by NSA? It's not like we haven't had our own shortage of government hacks in the last few years, it's not an insane notion to think somebody could use our tools to make it look like us.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

US stealing tech from China, how the turn tables.

[-] Nerorero 2 points 2 years ago

Number 1: that's terror

Number 2: that's terror

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