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[-] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 322 points 1 month ago

Electrician here, I've certainly felt electricity, and it sure ain't pleasant.

And those generation alternators must be very confused.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 108 points 1 month ago

Masochist here, you're wrong

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 month ago

Sadist here. You're right.

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Appeaser here: You both make very good points.

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[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago

As a non-electrician, I've also felt electricity and can confirm, it is indeed not pleasant.

[-] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 month ago

You did not feel electricity, you felt what it did to your body 🤓

And your heart felt the frequency 🤓🤓 assuming AC.. hope you do your regular ECG 🫶🏻

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[-] 58008@lemmy.world 212 points 1 month ago

This is somehow more offensive to my brain than if they'd simply said "electricity is god". The way they completely muddy the issue, making the reader not just misinformed but made to feel complacent, like there's no correct information to be found, is way more grotesque. It shuts down the mind of the reader. It's anti-education.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 97 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That is the sense of religion and because it is so used by goverments. Ignorant and submisive people are easier to dominate and manipulate.

[-] P1k1e@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

Holy crap that art is freakily accurate to reality

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 22 points 1 month ago

Actually there is also religions promoting science and research.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_attitudes_towards_science

A number of modern scholars such as Fielding H. Garrison, Sultan Bashir Mahmood, Hossein Nasr consider modern science and the scientific method to have been greatly inspired by Muslim scientists who introduced a modern empirical, experimental and quantitative approach to scientific inquiry. Certain advances made by medieval Muslim astronomers, geographers and mathematicians were motivated by problems presented in Islamic scripture, such as Al-Khwarizmi's (c. 780–850) development of algebra in order to solve the Islamic inheritance laws,[18] and developments in astronomy, geography, spherical geometry and spherical trigonometry in order to determine the direction of the Qibla, the times of Salah prayers, and the dates of the Islamic calendar.[19] These new studies of math and science would allow for the Islamic world to get ahead of the rest of the world. ‘With these inspiration at work, Muslim mathematicians and astronomers contributed significantly to the development to just about every domain of mathematics between the eight and fifteenth centuries"[20]

Many Muslims agree that doing science is an act of religious merit, even a collective duty of the Muslim community.[61] According to M. Shamsher Ali, there are around 750 verses in the Quran dealing with natural phenomena. According to the Encyclopedia of the Quran, many verses of the Quran ask mankind to study nature, and this has been interpreted to mean an encouragement for scientific inquiry,[62] and the investigation of the truth.[62] Some include, "Travel throughout the earth and see how He brings life into being" (Q29:20), "Behold in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day, there are indeed signs for men of understanding ..." (Q3:190)

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[-] varnia 166 points 1 month ago

Stupidity is a mystery. No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it. We can see and hear and feel only what stupidity does. We know it makes people say strange things, make poor decisions, and ignore obvious facts. But we cannot say what stupidity is like.

We cannot even say where stupidity comes from. Some say it might stem from ignorance or misinformation. Others think that social influences or emotional bias produce some of it. All everyone knows is that stupidity seems to be everywhere and that there are many ways for it to surface.

[-] illi@sh.itjust.works 45 points 1 month ago

No one has ever observed it or heard it or felt it.

I wish.

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[-] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 100 points 1 month ago
[-] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 1 month ago

This is child abuse. Pure and simple.

[-] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 91 points 1 month ago

We have no clue what electricity is, because we, the authors, are dumb as fuck.

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[-] AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de 81 points 1 month ago

We homeschooled our kids for non-religious reasons. Most of the commercially available books, materials and curriculums were Christian oriented. While I am a Christian (although not a conservative) I found some of the materials just flat out intellectually insulting, factually incorrect, extremely biased (without the benefit of scriptural justification) and the above example is far from the worst of what I saw. It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

We briefly homeschooled during the pandemic, and like you we're non-conservative Christians. When our Christian friends asked about our curriculum, they always wrinkled their noses at the fact that it said "secular curriculum" on the cover. We told them, "you don't understand how weird the home school curriculum business is. Trust me, it's way easier to take this curriculum and add the values we want to impart than to take all the Christian nationalism out of the religious curriculum."

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It says a LOT about where your faith actually lies if you have to promote a false reality to justify it.

The irony is that such fundamentalists rely on so much engineering, built on layers of scientific research, for what they do (like eating. And housing. And recruitment. And printing and distributing that textbook), and... yeah. It'd be like a flat-earther in orbit. It's beyond ironic: it's just not a possible situation without the help of outsiders refuting that belief.

I have a lot more respect for the Amish, isolated monks, folks that take their beliefs seriously and consistently in their lifestyle.

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[-] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 75 points 1 month ago

I was homeschooled my entire childhood. My mom was a Christian. Not a crazy zealot, just a woman with faith. Initially, my school books were through a Christian curriculum program (I believe abeka books, iirc). One of my textbooks had this module on dinosaurs, with little pictures of humans in leopard print look clothes picking berries while a brontosaurus walked by in the background. My mom, ever the fantastic mother, immediately tossed those pieces of garbage and got me on the state curriculum that the public schools used. Took her forever to get it. Initially, when she called the state to ask how to get those resources she was told to stick with abeka, and was offered several other insane religious options before they finally relented. From then on, even though we lived in Virginia, my school standard came out of California, and I had to take end of year tests that aligned with the state of California. I got a great education, and because Mama let me basically choose what hours of the day I did my schoolwork in, I didn't really need to take summers off. Ended up finishing 12th grade at 14 years old. I am so thankful that she realized how bad those books were, and fought to make sure, even as a single mother working well over full time, that her kids got a good education. My brother and I both placed highest in the state when we took our final exams, in everything but math.

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 70 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

American Christianity is so weird. This sort of nonsense just isn't a thing in Europe or at least not in my country.

[-] hexagon@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 month ago

I went to Italian catholic school from kindergarten to high school and studied dinosaurs and shit, nobody gets to american level of nonsense

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

My American catholic school taught us that creationism is against catholic doctrine. They also taught the controversy.

My friends who went to public school got less instruction on evolution and their science teachers were obviously creationist while mine barely hid that she thought it was moronic

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[-] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 month ago

Some scientists think that the sun may be the source of most electricity.

I wish most electricity waa from renewable energy

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 54 points 1 month ago

Lots of it is generated by burning biologically sequestered solar energy from hundreds of millions of years ago.

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[-] latenightnoir 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Ok, so here's the theme for this one: you're in the 1890s and you've just seen your first lightbulb. All you know is it runs on electricity instead of oil, and that some fucking idiot caught some electricity in a jar during a lightning storm. Go!"

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 month ago

In 1890 they had telegraph lines between continents for about 40 years.

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[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 month ago

Looking back when I was growing up I think the most nefarious thing about books like this is that printing gave a lot of implied legitimacy because it was expensive to print a book.

Speaks to how much money these people had to miseducate people.

[-] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My brother in America I have felt electricity and I can say exactly what it's like.

If you still don't believe though I will gladly share the secret of how to feel it for yourself. You need only bring a fork.

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[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 38 points 1 month ago

This is the stupidest shit I have heard in my life. Ever seen fucking sparks? Ever had to deal with static electricity? What do they mean they don't know where electricity comes from? We have power plants and an entire grid to provide electricity. The ways to generate electricity is extremely well known and are common fucking knowledge... I mean I learned it as a kid from cartoons and video games.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

Tide comes in tide goes out. Can't explain that.

[-] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 month ago

This feels like a projection of their deity. Did they want to conflate the mystery of their god to the mystery of electricity? I guess I'm a theist now...

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[-] judgyweevil@feddit.it 35 points 1 month ago

There are more pixels than the neurons in the writer's brain

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

Next chapter needs to be: "Fucking magnets, how do they work?"

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[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 month ago

When was this written? Also, it's not entirely untrue to say that we know what electromagnetic force does, but not what causes it. They say it's a 'fundamental force', which is basically way of saying we can't further reduce it to explain in terms of other stuff. We don't know what any of the fundamental forces (electromagnetism, gravity, and the strong and weak nuclear forces) really are - we can only describe their effects on the world with maths ('what they do')

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 74 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When was this written?

Given it has a (good quality) color photo attached to it, it was definitely published when we already understood the theory of electricity really well, so it doesn't get a pass.

We don’t know what any of the fundamental forces (electromagnetism, gravity, and the strong and weak nuclear forces) really are

I'd argue that for fundamental forces, "what they are" and "what they do" is the same, by definition.

And in any case, mains supply in your home is not just electromagnetic waves vibing around, it's electrons engineered to move through wires in very specific ways, transferring power from a moving magnet or (increasingly) a photon falling on a semiconductor junction, to move another magnet, heat up some metal, or (increasingly) bounce around some electrons between some semiconductor junctions and then emit photons from other semiconductors junctions.

Finally, most of the text is bullshit even if you don't think we know what fundamental forces "are":

No one has ever felt it

You can easily feel electric discharge. Just rub your hair on some wool.

No one has ever heard it

Just be around a thunderstorm. Thunder is the sound of an electric discharge.

We cannot even say where electricity comes from

You can see where the energy that moved the electrons in your wires came from: https://app.electricitymaps.com/

It was written by a complete and utter buffoon, and it can't be redeemed with any amount of handwaving or philosophizing over what it means to "know" or what things "are". Either that or it's satire (which might well be the case).

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[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

Guess there are no Christian electricians then...

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[-] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

ISBN please— full title and author will help too

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[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I swear I saw somewhere Texas schools gives out these books

[-] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 26 points 1 month ago

When I went to a (private) Christian school our science book was called Undertstanding God's World and it was pretty wacky. I think I remember it saying dinosaurs and humans lived alongside each other. I also remember being taught plate tectonics was a lie?

[-] Zron@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago

I was enrolled in a Christian school for kindergarten through second grade.

I was suspended in first grade because I threw a tantrum over the teacher saying that dinosaur fossils were all fake and created to deceive people into believing evolution. According to her dinosaurs and humans coexisted before the flood, and scientists know this but carve rocks into bone shapes to fool people because atheists are evil.

Naturally, being a dinosaur obsessed little boy, I flat out rejected this hypothesis. My grandmother had taught me to read way above my level, and I read encyclopedia entrees on different dinosaurs before bed every night, often annoying the shit out of grandma because id ask for explanations of sentences from scientific articles as a 6 year old. So after calling the teacher a moron for the fifth time, I was sent home early. When my mother heard my side of the story, she went to the public school the next day and asked for an enrollment form.

Fuck Christian schools. Science is awesome and dinosaurs are cool.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 30 points 1 month ago

Fuckin magnets, how do they work?

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[-] seejur@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Now, i usually don't advocate for book burning, but this one is making a compelling case

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Tide comes in and tide goes out. You can't explain that.

[-] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 26 points 1 month ago

This appears to be stupid, and it is, but it's mostly evil. Teaching children to accept absurdities and distrust evidence to make them easier to control.

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[-] jaded_genie@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Are they dense?? Electricity comes from the power outlet. Everyone knows that

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