In Finland, Linux market share has jumped from 4% to 24% within the last 6 months.
That must be a mistake. Are there any Finish people on Lemmy? I'd like to know if they are observing this on the ground, because honestly, if every 4th person had Linux there it would be somewhat visible. Even non-techies in the family or friend circle would mention it or ask about switching to it, or there would be a popular store to buy stuff with linux pre-installed.
I'm obviously limited to my own bubble, but my friends / aquintances consist mostly of "tech aware" people and they have been getting cozy with Fedora and Linux Mint due to the BuyFromEU/BuyFromEurope movement.
I know from a few schools that they use ChromeBooks since corona pandemic (they were handing them to kids so everyone could equally attend remotely) and they just kept using them since they had them when they returned to classrooms. I don't know how widespread this is and don't know if chromebooks count towards linux desktop stats?
There seems to be some debate on whether we are counting Chromebooks as Linux.
the debate basically comes down to "technically linux" (ie, it runs on the linux kernal like chrome os and android) and "spiritually linux" (ie, you, the end user, are the ultimate owner of the hardware and the software that runs on it). i think if we're talking the latter chromeos belongs less than windows does. however for a stat collector this may be an impossible ask
the debate basically comes down to “technically linux” (ie, it runs on the linux kernal like chrome os and android) and “spiritually linux” (ie, you, the end user, are the ultimate owner of the hardware and the software that runs on it).
This is why Stallman tried to insist on "GNU/". As usual, he was right.
Chromeos is counted seperatly with ~1,25%
Ah okay so that's not it. Thanks for clarifying.
Another finn chiming in, linux user for about 1.5 years. Another friend of mine started dual booting recently. Wouldn't say it's common to use Linux at all.
Sopuli.xyz is run from Finland, so probably yes.
Yeah that stat is almost certainly a measurement artifact - these browser-based surveys only track user-agent strings which can be spoofed, and some Finnish university or government network probably changed their default config or started running a massive scraper project lol.
That seems highly unlikely to me. Could a reason be website scrapers for AI using different user agents to prevent being blocked? The recent reports of different projects plagued by scrapers fit the timeline
Wow! What caused that? Orange man?
I have no idea, but it does match the Orange timeline.
If you look back in 2022, you see the same ramp up. I expect ramp down soon.
Wow, that’s crazy. Any particular reason for that?
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Tux having fingers kinda creeps me out.
Fuck, is this AI again?
This is what slop looks like, yes.
Installing stuff needs to not be a hostile moonscape of cobbled instructions and deciphering terminal matrix-speak.
Double click to install for everything, good (as opposed to existent) GUIs for everything, one-click updates all in one place. Leave the obscure terminal stuff in forever, so the big dick terminal folk can clack away and do everything they want that way. No reason to remove any of it; it's an awesome option to have.
It's too difficult to recommend wholeheartedly on its own merits because of random 10,000% drops in usability. It's not super far from living up to its ideals more fully, though. Well...it feels that way to me, but maybe those problems don't make the amount of work to fix them obvious.
I'll never leave it because it's clearly the way to go, but with a little attitude solving, Linux could be the god damn best on every front, as opposed to "best overall mostly because the others are spying shitty money addicts trying to ruin your computer on purpose".
I understand that's how things are, but man, what a sorry state of affairs. CLIs used to be the ONLY way to use computers, and common people wrote programs all the time! It was part of normal school curriculum for fucks sake. My mom was required to learn BASIC in high school. Nothing even close to that now. Schools MAYBE have some intro programming elective, if they're lucky.
We've managed to deskill multiple generations of computer users, and it gets worse every single year. More and more people only understand to scroll and press big buttons, with cognition of any sort being completely absent. Just monkeys in a cage created by corporations. It's heartbreaking, really.
I bet that when CLIs were the only way to use computers, the majority of people probably didn’t use a computer at all.
Yeah I recently installed Signal on my kubuntu machine and the Signal website only showed how to install it via CLI no mentioning of the Discover or Snap store. My parents, who only started using the computer for the first time after their 60’s, are definitely not able to install it if they forget that the stores exist and a website tells them to use the CLI as the only option.
Like the front ends exist application makers just need to point people to it if they want Linux adoption to improve.
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My sympathies go out to anybody forced to use a Linux desktop environment.
My condolences to anyone who thinks windows is more usable / suited better to their use case in any way.
I don't know, I enjoy using gnome much more that the steaming pile of shit that is windows 11
sorry but if you can't navigate around something as simple as KDE Plasma that idiocy is on you my friend because you must be bottom of the barrel dumb to not be able to figure that out.
My sympathies go out to anyone who doesn't get paid when they have to waste time touching Windows.
When was he last time you tried?
Just put a relatively tech unaware friend on mint. They're doing very well so far!
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Which one specifically?
While there are certainly Linux desktops I prefer more and those I prefer less, as someone who is forced to use Windows 11 at work I'd gladly take any Linux desktop environment over that mess.
What's going on there? MacOS and OSX are counted separately.
You are delusional if you genuinely believe that link is stopping any AI scraper.
So are android and Linux.
It's just how the site does things.
Android isn't GNU/Linux
Meh we could be here all day with that argument.
The site breaks it down either way in the same way Mac and iOS is labeled.
- OS X: Holds 16.57%.
- macOS: Accounts for 7.72%. (It's worth noting that some data reporting issues mean OS X and macOS are sometimes split, even though macOS is the newer branding for OS X. When combined, Apple's desktop presence is around 24%).
So not to be confused with iOS. Which if this is just counting desktops, then that shouldn’t apply.
crazy to me that apple OS is such a small percentage relative to Windows. Most people i know use Macbooks.
its crazy how many general devices in the country are running windows
Its mostly down to the near total stranglehold Microsoft has had on enterprise endpoint for the last 2 decades making up some massive numbers for them.
I think it's as simple as, it came with the system. Almost all general users just use whatever comes with the system. Hardware and software are the same in their eyes.
Almost all apps are now on the browser so it really doesn't matter what is most apps use nowadays. At least from a general computer perspective. We are the strange ones :)
Almost 25% isn’t that small.
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