Firefox is some other type of engine that renders pages differently and doesn't always work the same but brave has Chrome underneath it so it's the same thing and it's fine and uses all the same extensions and you like it
promotion, especially as a 'security focused' browser with 'uncommon' features.
A good chunk of websites are just broken with Firefox and their not even broken in obvious ways. Some times they fail to load, sometimes they render weirdly, sometimes their just unresponsive. I use Firefox as my main browser but I always have something chromium based as my backup for when a website I wanna use just doesn't work. A lot of the time I don't even think to use it and assume the site would be broken on chromium as well but nope. Its almost always Firefox:/.
Haven't had trouble with Firefox for a long time. Sure, I also have chrome sitting somewhere on the hard drive as a backup but didn't need to use it for months if not years. Started to use Waterfox on one pc and I'm happy with that one too.
Can you give any examples where we can see these differences?
The royal mail tracking website for example brings up an obnoxious full page block on top of the actual content. Only happens on Firefox on android. Chrome worked fine.
Edit: also, just for reference, I'm amazed anyone actually needs examples of this. Its very well known that different browsers have different supported functionalities and unless the webdevs are properly customising styles and scripts for different platforms their gonna deviate. Thusly its not surprising most stuff only works as designed on Chrome since that's the only Web browser that's guaranteed to be tested on (it has the lions size of market share, to the point Firefox barely even registers).
Hmm, I thought I'd find Waterfox mentioned but I didn't. That one gets my recommendation.
Firefox keeps adding stuff I don't want, Chrome keeps removing stuff I do want.
I wish there was a browser that just does what I want, and lets me turn off the stuff I don't want.
QuteBrowser. You control it completely. you can add scripts you want, remove stuff you don't want. I have mine tied in with my bitwarden account so easy password management. I have a script that skips all youtube ads and has never been detected by google because technically I'm "watching the ads" it just immediately skips them. it's tied in with greasemonkey so it makes adding customs scripts for whatever site I use a breeze. It has vim style navigation so it's super quick to move around and don't need to use a mouse.
I love it, I'll never use a different browser again. Plus the dev for it is really cool and very helpful.
This look to be amazing. I live by a CLI, but most browsers have some keyboard shortcuts at best. This one seems to have the capability to be fully KB using a VIM-like command line, which is awesome.
Thanks for the recommendation!
I use FOSS browser on frim f-droid. Federated SearxNG engine.
Somewhere along the line Brave tricked people into thinking they weren't owned by a couple of really bigoted dudes.
In fairness Brian Bondy might be a good dude, but Brendan Eich sucks.
Do you have a source that resumes everything bad about Brave in one neat package ? I am tired of searching for sources everywhere and not finding everything I need each time someone ask me about it
Ive browser hopped a bit, Im currently on brave because it has a good vertical tabs integration and works decently well. Having to use another browser because a page won't load correctly is infuriating to me. After reading the comments here, I'd like to switch. I'm guessing Firefox is my best option huh?
Vivaldi is nice. Created by the Opera creators. Cookie removal, antitracking, etc out of the box.
I was browser hopping a bunch lately. Stayed on Zen or a while but confusing it for multiple devices was a pain and there was always a new update that broke a mod, so I kept looking. Somehow I landed on edge, mostly due to how it did vertical tabs. But then I recently found out that standard Firefox pretty much does them just like that now, so I'm on that now.
I was also on edge for a while exclusively for the vertical tabs, initially it was actually a decent experience if you stripped out bing. Now I'm on brave because it's fine and it has good compatibility.
Firefox was borked on my machine when I started using Brave. Still using it on other machines though
No idea it's been plain to me is Brave is kind of dodgy to the point I've never even tried it.
I got my dad to try Firefox and he said it drained his phone battery like no tomorrow, so now he uses brave because it doesn't
I've been using Firefox for years on my phone with no such problems, so I can't exactly verify what he's saying
It’s possible dad was lying.
cause most people just google a chrome alternative. they dont do research. brave gives them a surafce level adblocking, and they feel fine with it.
Doesn't Firefox still have brand recognition though? I'd have thought even people who answer "google" to "what browser do you use" would have heard of firefox, and therefore looked it up rather than using the neurons to ask, "what alternative browsers are there?"
You're assuming people know things about the tech field. Very few do. I mean, those of us that do recognize the name Firefox. But someone who heard from a friend that Google went on trial for bad monopoly practices and wants to deGooglefy has no idea what's available or what any of it means.
Because vanilla Firefox has to be tinkered with to get the best out of it and the average user is not able to do it
As a user of Firefox from 1-3 and quantum to current.... What exactly are you tinkering with? Install ublock and be done.
Dude I use firefox as main browser too, I'm not saying that brave is better, read my comment again.
What I'm saying is that you and I are not the average user. Our moms are the average user, our brother that got a DUI last friday is the average user, our anti-vax aunt is the average user...
In what way?
I switched recently to Librewolf, but as a long time Firefox user (of which Librewolf is a fork anyway) it didn't seem unusable out of the box. There are some settings for privacy and studies etc you mght want to change, but they are all very obvious in the GUI preferences.
I did personally go into about:config to set a few things, like not allowing searches from the address bar because I'm weird, but what makes Firefox no good for the average user?
The typical conversation I have is:
and that's where I loose most of the people, that extra step.
Me and you can go down on the about:config all day long to dissect every aspect of privacy we care about. For the other 90% of people, even just going to Mozilla extensions manager and downloading u-Block Origin is too much.
Bear-proof trash can theorem...
Don't extra step
" how come you don't have YouTube ads??"
"Firefox"
Later they come to you "but i still have ads!" THEN ya hit them with config
Config is just to add ublock. I'd hardly call that config.
Any more so than vanilla Chrome?
No, in fact the average user doesn't tinker with Chrome either
Been using duckduck go for a while now, can recommend.
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