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Showerquestions
I question my showers.
Sorry, you're right, will do for next time:) I guess I wrote my inner questions while showering than crafting this as terminal thoughts.
The biggest challenge for future intelligent species, and the reason why I know we're the first technological ones, is that we've mined all of the easily accessible metals and all of the easily accessible fossil fuels. Any intelligence arriving after us is going to have to make a civilization without iron, precious metals, oil, or coal. Unless you get into some sci-fi bio-engineering scenario where they're growing high tech, they're doomed to being stuck in the stone age. It's going to be hard for them to escape the planet, defend it from asteroids, deal with super-volcanoes, build advanced calculating devices... all of the stuff we would already find challenging even with all the resources we have.
Millions of years are not enough to replenish the fossil fuels, and the sun is going to start expanding before enough life lives and dies to produce any useful amount of biomass. Before then, more metals will become accessible, in places, but good luck working it at industrial levels without fossil fuels.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but we've given a severe handicap to advancing beyond a rudimentary agrarian society for any successor species; even if it's our own descendants re-arrising from a post-apocalyptic environmental catastrophe.
Metals are here, will recycle in the earth. Where will it go?
Lower end of Earth being in the habitatal zone being just 1 billion years left. Our consumption of the easy to reach resources before them arriving to the scene, I think you're likely right.
Upper estimates are ~3 billion for habital zone, and Red Giant phase being ~5 billion years from now for factoid funsies.
See the Silurian hypothesis:
The Silurian hypothesis is a thought experiment, which assesses modern science's ability to detect evidence of a prior advanced civilization, perhaps several million years ago.
I've thought about the idea of some future civilization thinking they're the first and then finding subway tunnels and the flags planted on the moon
I fucking hate Graham Hancock
According to What If, a layer of processed hydrocarbons in the geological record.
A totally not serious answer. Today, I was sitting across from a Starbucks and staring at the logo. It is really weird. I started thinking that if something were to happen to civilization, all these cups, sleeves, merchandise and plastic stir sticks emblazoned with the Starbucks logo may cause future archaeologists to think that we worshipped some half fish woman thing (or whatever the logo is supposed to be).
Alternatively, this xkcd could be fun to do.
In theory eventually any earth we lived on would be lost to tectonic plate movements and it would be like we were never here. And then the sun explodes so...
Depends on the time period honestly. Biggest signs are gonna be massive buildings or infrastructure projects. I wonder how long voyager will last just drifting?
More than they're going to get otherwise. Also this is a series of questions, not a shower thought.
It is pure conjecture to say any other "intelligent" and industrious species would arise, but many modern constructions would have little to no sign of existence. Any metal, even most stainless steels, would be rusted away or buried many feet deep after millions of years. Even plastics and cement would be deteriorated enough that there would mostly just be the greatly disturbed strata that would give big clues that something either catastrophic or massively industrious happened. Only very rare areas that are geologically stable and have low corrosion would have much of a chance to retain anything recognizable, like how only some cave paintings are still around today.
So, maybe a couple military bases might retain enough structure to piece some things together, but it'll still be a mess by the time another equivalently ~~self-centered~~ intelligent species comes about.
Very little, if anything, would remain of our civilization in five or six million years. At least I wouldn't think so, aside from what we have floating in outer space. Six million years is an awfully long time, and it's not like our consumer-based society builds things to last...
The Earth would finally be safe.
Earth the planet is totally alright with everything we do. It's been through much tougher times.
We only endanger ourselves and other living creatures.
I vaguely remember there being a doco on what would happen to the earth if people disappeared. I remember it showed the cities getting all grown over, but it stopped and talked about each stage and what would happen.
Showerthoughts
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.
Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:
- Both “200” and “160” are 2 minutes in microwave math
- When you’re a kid, you don’t realize you’re also watching your mom and dad grow up.
- More dreams have been destroyed by alarm clocks than anything else
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