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As Donald Trump cheered the passage of his self-styled, and officially named, Big Beautiful Budget Bill through Congress this week, long-sown seeds of doubt about the scale and sustainability of US borrowing from the rest of the world sprouted anew.

Trump's tax-cutting budget bill is expected to add at least $3 trillion (£2.2 trillion) to the US's already eye-watering $37tn (£27tn) debt pile. There is no shortage of critics of the plan, not least Trump's former ally Elon Musk, who has called it a "disgusting abomination".

The growing debt pile leaves some to wonder whether there is a limit to how much the rest of the world will lend Uncle Sam.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

With Trump weakening the trust in the dollar and people looking at the Euro as a new reference, the rates at which the US can borrow money is already going up. At 37tn borrowed, even a tiny uptick will cost a fortune or two. Which, unless the conservatives suddenly show fiscal responsibility (which they never did so far), will just increase the deficit.

[-] CMahaff@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

The worst part of the debt is that nothing good was done with it.

If you use that money to implement a national healthcare system, or fix the national infrastructure, or stabilize social security, or figure out child care, or work on affordable housing, or fix the cost of education, or invest in renewable energy, etc. then maybe it's worth it. Hell, you might even end up net positive in the end with all the good done to society in the long run.

Instead, all of these things are even worse than before while most of the money was spent on a bunch of useless wars and tax cuts for the rich.

And now, there's no more easy money to be borrowed to fix anything.

[-] Alloi@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

handling it the only way i know how

[-] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

There is so much going on in this picture I don't even know where to start

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

The lack of a numpad on that keyboard is what sticks out to me

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago
[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

You kind of need it for some programs (traditional roguelikes, some media players adjust the volume with numpad keys) so I wouldn't want to go without it myself, but to each their own I suppose

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I actually switch it off with a full-size! I use my full size for anything where I’m not playing games, and my 60% alongside a Razer Tartarus v2 for playing games. It’s the best possible setup I’ve ever had, and I’ve tried a million setups in my days hahaha

Quick edit: the lil hand keyboard can map out anything I want, and my 60% has FN volume buttons!

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Is that a bowling pin video?

[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 month ago

People need to understand that the debt is not the issue. It's healthy to run a national debt. The massive problem is the dollar is being run into the ground. We are losing allies left and right which compounds your debt. He is fucking us on both sides.

[-] Olap@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Trump understands that it doesn't matter about the debt. Who does he owe it to after all? The banks won't call the debts in, cause they don't need to, and if he devalues the dollar he sees it as a win for exports

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I have lost all faith in fiat currency, and so I only now hold Goldbacks and Monero. If I need fiat currency to pay for something, I can easily get it using one of those two currencies that are stronger.

Edit: pretty sure i struck a nerve. After all, how dare slaves have thoughts of their own

[-] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

No one cares about your libertarian gimmick cash and shitcoins, buddy.

[-] peteyestee@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

America realized the USD is dying... So now they're stockpiling immigrants for after the dollar crash.

[-] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

at 123% years old long overdue; we always had a spending problem - too many defense hawks keeping their beaks wet

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

US is going isolationist. Our debt becomes the worlds problem.

We're trying the single guy life for a while again. So rest of the world we're breaking up, it's definitely us not you but we're leaving all our baggage to you and keeping some of the keys. You

Enjoy your orgies of on going cooperations and spirits of goodwill, you heathen scum.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Except for all the military bases literally everywhere.

[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Which we'll see how long those last. Isolationism means isolationism though. But I bet this admin can't even do that right.

[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The $3.4T deficit increase projection, $340B/year is on top of the $1.9T projected deficit for 2025 prior to bill. The projected deficit for FY2035 is $2.7T. This is before golden dome, and other warmongering/Israel funding. 2025 and 2035 numbers are both about 6.1% of GDP.

GOP talking points have include the fantasy of growing at 3% (instead of 1.9%) annually to pay for the $340B/year increase, but at 6.1% deficit/GDP ratio, total debt increases as long as nominal GDP doesn't grow above 6.1%. Cutting healthcare, and population through deportations won't cause growth.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I should worry… but with all the other shit that’s going on, my worry buffer is on overflow. I’m gonna pretend I didn’t read this.

[-] theupsanddownsof@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The lending should take into account the reduced defence spend the US is asking other regions to take up.

[-] Profligate_Parasite@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

Lmao ppl like "hmm generally, im not worried about anything... everything is so great why would I? But I see this article... should I? Should I worry?"

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