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submitted 3 weeks ago by als to c/world@lemmy.world

In 6 hours it will be illegal to say "I support Palestine Action" in the UK, with a sentence of up to 14 years in prison.

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[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago

Israel has the world wrapped around it's genocidal finger. Trump likes to talk about how "unfair" it is when other countries get any sort of aid, but Israel has us uprooting everything we've built to AVOID ANOTHER HOLOCAUST while slurping down more aid than Ukraine who is taking on the world's most belligerent superpower

[-] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Seeing how so many Israel apologists have so much power is like seeing a headmaster defend the school bully, but much, much worse. they're always like "NEVER AGAIN" about the Holocaust yet they've made a piss poor effort at preventing a genocide that's happening right now and are actively pouring petrol on a fire

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So many people are afraid to say it, but it's Jewish money that's bought them off. You used to be called antisemitic if you talked about Jewish people running everything like it was a conspiracy theory, but the past few years have proven they run things or can buy those who do.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

The government bundled the law with ban of other groups like a neonazi group to force voting for the law

[-] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 22 points 3 weeks ago

And folks say the US is backwards! 🤣 What a joke the UK is.

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know what it is about Israel that has made politicians the world over lose their minds.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Europe ia still controlled by racism and neocolonialism

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Of course, but, Europe also has a long history of being antisemitic. It just seems weird to me to fall over yourself for an ally that doesn't seem especially valuable. Maybe there is some 4d chess that is lost to a peasant like me.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago

It is convenient. By claiming unwavering support for Israel you can distract from your own antisemitism and blame it on brown people. This comes in especially useful to ramp up racism against the very same people you blame for your own antisemitism.

Israel plays along in this game, as they profit both from racism against brown people letting them get away with more crimes as well as profiting from cases of antisemitism, as it allows Israel to claim it is needed for Jewish safety.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Which recent Europeen leaders and major parties has antisemitism policies?

[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

By your definition of recent, I don't know if I could. Of course, I don't really agree that 25 years or even 30 years constitutes recent, and my ability to name a specific policy in that time frame doesn't erase nearly 2 thousand years of Anti-semitism in the hearts (and sometimes law) of Europeans.

learn the term PEP

Progressive Except Palestine.

they are all nice and progressive but as soon as Palestine comes out, they flip flop or go full right wing and change sides.

[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

That doesn't explain why though.

lobbying.

they support the more leftist lobbied options.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

The turd doesn't fall far from the ass

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

At least this is just one group of palestine supporters. In the US you get deported for any sign of support for palestine.

[-] Corngood@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 weeks ago

Another hearing is scheduled for 21 July when Palestine Action will apply for permission for a judicial review to quash the order. In the meantime, and unless the judicial review is successful, membership of, or inviting support for, the group will carry a maximum sentence of 14 years in prison.

So they have a hearing, and presumably legal representation, but they can't legally have any members at the time of the hearing? What a load of shit.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Seems a good way to destroy the legitimacy of the government. That's not representing the will of the people.

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Finding out part of fucking around.

Countries don't usually take kindly to people or organizations that break into military bases and vandalize equipment.

[-] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

And? that equipment was being used to further a genocide against the Palestinian people. half of which are children. just because a government considers something unlawful doesn't mean it's morally wrong

[-] PTSDwarrior@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

All that equipment was going to Ukraine, which is also undergoing a genocide by Russia. They just happen to have a proper military, unlike the Palestinians. This was not a good move, and the protesters were probably coopted by Russian agents.

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

that equipment was being used to further a genocide against the Palestinian people.

[Citation needed]

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

protesting genocide by any means if more ethically current than following the law.

We're taking about genocide, the worst crime known to manking.

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Doing something that gets your org banned by a government that isn't even the one you're protesting seems not only ineffective but counterproductive to me.

Censorship laws in the UK are quite dystopian, but even in less authoritarian countries, this kind of action would result in serious consequences.

meanwhile, said state is profiting from a genocide by selling weapons to murder starving children.

still, said state has no moral high ground.

and said protest made the news.

if your state isn't trying to ban you, are you even trying to change anything?

or you should ignore protest where there state says using state approved methods, this way your protests is just a gathering that's trivial to ignore?

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