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I often wondered how nazi germany happened given the democracy and find myself caught up in the process despite my best efforts and the efforts of many people I know.
The only efforts that matter going forward is for people now to give up their own comfort to secure the future for others. Either we trust each other with our lives or we forfeit our futures to authoritarian rule. I maybe only have another 30-40 years left. 20 years of "healthy" living. Its not me who's losing out big.
Id happily donate those years to a cause that was real and not just talk. If my only choice is to lead it myself, fine, but someone needs to start following.
I don't think people need to give up comfort. At least not to any reasonable level. We need to make it so that we are doing things efficiently. Passive housing using geothermal/solar/wind and such. People able to afford to live where they can be carless.
there are very rich and powerful people who spend all of their 'working' time actively fighting against those things. They (clearly) would sooner support the construction of the fourth reich in america than give up profit streams like energy/housing/automotive.
Things are going to get real fucky.
Those in power will be unable to trust each other and their employees even less. We may end up living where we work.
Diseases will be widespread, and no care will be offered to anyone but the privileged.
Famine, likely entirely manufactured, will cause massive amounts of starvation.
Modern conveniences will be slowly lost. Cars will be falling apart because no one can afford mechanics, and the lack of vehicle regulations leads to excessive accidents.
Planes will break up midaire. Widespread blackouts when shit goes sideways. Forget about medicine.
Waterways will be polluted beyond what can be boiled. Breathing in big cities will be hazardous. They will say "efficiency" but not one instance of efficiency will be observable.
Kids showing academic excellence will be abducted and sent to special indoctrination schools so that they can only benefit the regime.
Women will have rights removed. All men will have to do a two year duty in war. Church attendance will be reported to the government.
I have more ideas but I'll stop there
damn homie are you the heritage foundation
I mean I could be. 13 year old me thought of most of this stuff during his hormonal days
I think No Church Attendance will be reported
Criticism, questioning, ambiguity, or hesitance will also be reported.
Strikes me that you've forgotten about the rest of the world.
The rest of the world isn't coming to help as long as we only hurt those within our borders. No one stood up to the Nazis until they started moving on other countries, even though they were already known to be committing atrocities. The rest of the world is just going to cut us off and let us burn, most of the world hates the U.S. and only plays nice for economic and military reasons.
That's true, but some of your dystopian ideas require the entire planet to fall into collapse and ruin. Eventually the odds are pretty good that the rest of the world (assuming we're in decent shape ourselves) will start to provide humanitarian aide to the US.
And stating that "most of the world hates the U.S." is definitely a sign that you don't quite understand how we feel about the US.
I guess I've just given up and assume everyone would just cut us off. I've really only seen negativity twords the US, so that colors my view. There's also my buddy from Japan who advised me to say I was Canadian when traveling internationally due to the negativity he's seen directed at the US when he's traveling Asia and Europe.
I guess I’ve just given up and assume everyone would just cut us off. I’ve really only seen negativity twords the US, so that colors my view. There’s also my buddy from Japan who advised me to say I was Canadian when traveling internationally due to the negativity he’s seen directed at the US when he’s traveling Asia and Europe.
Speaking as a Canadian, your friend from Japan can fuck right off.
Even the good people from the US (and there absolutely are some - some of my dearest friends are from SoCal) are not Canadian, and either (a) can't pull it off, or (b) skew the rest of the world's view of Canadians.
So please don't.
Honestly he's hard to read and he may have been joking, or not, I never bothered to find out since I really had no intention of doing it anyway. I work in international freight and deal with Canadian bound freight exclusively, some of the nicest customers I've dealt with were Canadian. CBSA.... they deal with bastards all day so they get a pass.
Honestly I own the fact that I'm American and then try to show we're not all backwards assholes. I figure I'm stuck here for the foreseeable future so I might as well try to do something to let the world know we're not all nazis.
Brain drain. It’s already started. Academics, scientists, and researchers are moving to Canada or Europe to do their work. As shit gets worse, the upper and middle classes will start to do the same. The underprivileged and undereducated will fight for the scraps of what’s left.
Actually the lower class has a bit better chance. If you have no home to sell or money to transfer over leaving is a bit easier. If you have enough to set yourself up and then sell what you have that makes it easy. So its like people barely affording their mortgages or have decent jobs that would be hard to replace that get stuck until its to late.
Actually the lower class has a bit better chance.
gtfo
If you have no home to sell or money to transfer over leaving is a bit easier.
In what world does having no money make it easier to move to another country?
Its easier because your costs are forward rather than in arears. You can't move before you sell the house because then you will have to pay on it while your trying to figure out expenses in a new place. You need to sell it for more than you owe and you will then need to find temporary housing where you will not have any costs if you need to leave at any particular time which tends to be more expensive. You will need to downsize to a backpacker level as part of this. Not just you but your family. Then you will be applying to try to get somewhere else which may or may not happen. You can start that before but then you might just have to abandon everything. If one has nothing to lose the process is easier. Similarly if you want to have a similar lifestyle in the new country you will have to find an equivalent and likely harder to find job in the new country.
Bud, I can't even afford to get my car fixed to make it to the closest border. The thought of having a house to sell is a dream.
This. I don't think a lot of people understand the level of impoverishment we actually have.
Moving is expensive, especially to another country. Assets or not.
Eventually, the world will get tired of our shit and do something about it. It will not be pretty. Mainly economic suffocation…. That’s the only way the rest of the world can hurt the US.
Given how well that worked with Russia, yeah don't expect much help.
We're suffocating ourselves just fine
Eventually we will get tired of our shit and do something about it. TF would others help us while we refuse to help ourselves? The rest of the world will contain us, much to the sociopathic capitalist class' delight.
Except y'all have nuclear weapons and the rest of us mostly don't. When you're done with your local genocides the US will inevitably turn outwards for a scapegoat.
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
Yeah, Lemmy, what does the future look like?
Bull. I don't even get to have a double jump implant installed but I still have to deal with corpofascism. This is all a total rip-off.
If your curious what the right is pushing for go ahead and check out The Turner Diaries.
If you actually finish the book, wait for your rage to subside then arm yourself.
Let me guess. They rape women.
Turner Diaries is a white nationalist screed about overthrowing the US government to install a fascist dictatorship that starts a nuclear war and begins a systematic purge and execution of all non-whites, Jews, and any "race traitors" who view those groups as anything other than scum
It's vile beyond words
I tend to believe a society that turns inward on itself will only ever turn inward on itself until its completely gone.
In all likelihood the first bomb going off would be the end of it all. Anarchy. Destruction of every social contract.
I skipped to the last two words of your comment months ago.
So I actually just kinda answered this as a "joke" in another thread, but essentially:
The future: fascists, racist robots, billionaires, more fascists, bombing civilians, cutting science funding, the earth is on fire, more fascists, cutting HIV study funding, more racist robots, gutting artistic employment, more billionaires, fried donuts.
Oh boy donuts
"We" are not good with it. But if you're American you might be, yeah.
The door is shutting. Might want to stick your foot in the gap before they lock it behind them.
Look to the past for a view of our future.
Death, mostly death.
War.
A big ol pile of shit.
V for Vendetta, but without V to help save us from ourselves.
I think the book The Fourth Turning and its sequel talk about this.
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