I wonder if they'll still get these heat waves if the AMOC shuts down?
Heat will be least of europes problems then. No rain and drought will be resulting in heavy farming decline
More extreme weather, some of our most important farmlands becoming unproductive to an extent not seen before.
Looks like ~~meat~~ famine's back on the menu boys!
You guys seem like a fun bunch to hang out with
I don't understand how anybody can discuss the state of our climate collapse in any positive light.
"I mean hey, the oceans are acidifying faster than we expected, and the AMOC is slowing down, and the ice sheets are melting rapidly, and the ocean is swallowing our coastlines, and global temperatures have jumped significantly in the last several years, and the overall climate has been becoming more extreme and dangerous over the years, and we're pumping shit into the atmosphere at record paces, and more parts of the earth are becoming uninhabitable, and we're also dealing with stronger more intense storms and hurricanes, and there's plastic poisoning everything and everyone everywhere, and we keep dumping heavy metals into the groundwater, and animal populations are declining, but hey, keep that chin up! Don't listen to those negative nancies, they'll harshen your vibe."
Don’t forget that we’re still burning the (wrong) Amazon and the US government just deleted all its climate science from the internet.
Sure there is isn't a lot to be optimistic about. I'm not optimistic in any quantifiable sense. I just like to think "we can make it through this" rather than "we're all gonna die". That's the only way how I can keep my sanity.
Right, and that is commendable. Just please keep comments like "You guys seem like a fun bunch to hang out with" to yourself, it's not really adding to the discussion and we don't need snide remarks about the fear and uncertainty we feel in regards to the collapse of the global environment. Keep that chin up, don't let people harsh your vibe, but please don't push down when people are rightfully worried about the future. Things are going to be getting very hard for a lot of people a lot sooner than we were hoping for, it's only natural that people are going to feel negatively about it.
I recommend reading The Ministry of The Future for some feel good and hope rekindlying
No one said humanity cant make it threw it. Thing is, we dont know that for curtain, its likely, but not curtain. And yet still, me being in my early 20s i will have to see the world succum to it and probably live threw the death of the AMOC and the results. All while currently not having propotional equal political power als the old fucks that are voting in fascists and nazis (yes. Hi im from germany and yes the AfD is fascist and hosts a lot of actually nazis).
Reality is this and it needs to be talked about even if it is bleak and seems hopeless. All the damage done right now is irreversable. "Humanity will survive" yes but at what cost? How many people have to lose their place of home? How much terraine has to become uninhabitable? How many species have to die out? How much chemicals in every part of us and water wasted that already is running out with the droughts?
Throwing our hands up and "well we cant really do anything" or "its somehow gonna sort itself out" is a pathetic stance on a litteral existential issue of humanity.
No one knows if this actually is the end of humanity or not. No one. So either help fighting climat change every bit you can, in politics and changing your lifestyle or be one of the causes of a perhaps extingtion of your own kind and the terrible world you leave behind.
You arent getting younger, the heat and effects will be yours to live with. And maybe even your personal death, be it from natural desaster, heat stroke, or other causes.
So keep your high school 'you are fun at partys' to yourself. The once that are actually discussing the topic are talking and you arent helping
Sorry, is optimism an obligation?
Good point, of course once the plankton collapses and archea start to take over they’ll have to deal with all the sulfur dioxide
Never thought about this but your comment made me aware of this possible consequence. Thanks
Yeah sorry to be the one to break it to you. The shutdown of the AMOC is not only the collapse of the ocean ecosystem and an upset of global temperature it’s also going to make the shore line give off toxic fumes that smell like rotten eggs.
Went to the park last night and the lake smelled like eggs, so this is why?
Probably yes, maybe even more so. Plus, harsh winters. Yay.
I heard this would lead to a strange case where europeans would support global warming because the temperatures would drop by so much.
@grok please summarize the article
It had hott. fire! Bitches be crayzeeehhh! Word is bond daw.
Damn that's sad. Can you make a rhyme?
Chatgpt gave me this. It's nice and playful and wild.
Sure! Here's a rhymed version that keeps the vibe playful and wild:
It had hot fire, burning so bold, Bitches be crazy, outta control! Word is bond, yo, truth be told— We ride through the heat, hearts ice cold!
Surprisingly few get this joke
walkable communities when the oil kings burn the sky:
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