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Apple notes that off-store downloads work only inside the EU, and disappear if you stay outside the bloc for more than 30 days.
Assholes.
I wonder if Europeans should have a case when they want to do 31 days of business travel and Apple cut off their apps.
“No problem, here’s the exemption form; please attach your itinerary and a blood sample”
That’s what Apple Vision Pro is for. Now, you can stay home and imagine your destination in isolation. And you’ll have to stay home because the battery life will keep you tethered to a pretty reliable power source.
META -$70b on Metaverse likes the sound of Apple trying the same :)
They should hit Apple with the penalty for breaking the spirit of the agreement.
Anyone know the whole range of the enabling technologies for the geofencing?
Look at the nearby WiFi networks, check GPS, see what cell towers are around, (Apple account registration location)…?
Core Location is a multi-sensor system process in iOS. GPS, WiFi, cellular, Bluetooth, accelerometer, altimeter in order (as of ~5 years ago)
https://lagrangepoint.substack.com/p/airpods-hearing-aid-hacking#footnote-1-151260143
I wonder if this method would work
Interesting read, thanks
In April, the European Commission fined Apple €500 million ($585 million) for blocking developers from steering users to cheaper payment options, and warned that daily penalties of up to 5% of global revenue could follow if it failed to comply.
LMAOOOO get fucked, Apple we love your hardware and your software (when properly tested first), but given you’ve had a great run with the fees now it’s time to let us own our hardware at least a little.
5%? Not messing around. No wrist slap there.
Let’s go freedom, let’s go Apple-but-the-right-way (please)!
5% daily, of global revenue.
Now that's how penalties should work.
With all respect for people who hate Apple (myself included), this doesn't look like how penalties should work. I doubt there are adequate standards of how an entity like EU can request any percentage of global revenue from anyone. What would you do if you request any more than Apple considers adequate and decides it's more profitable to just leave your market?
Problem is companies like to use global accounting schemes to hide/move profit.
If it was “5% of profit in the EU” then overnight Apple would suddenly make 0 profit in the EU due to “brand licensing fees” to Apple Cayman Islands Incorporated.
What would you do if you request any more than Apple considers adequate and decides it's more profitable to just leave your market?
Cheer?
They cannot request it from anyone, only for those who chose to operate in EU jurisdiction.
Apple is free to not operate in the EU.
And I would welcome that. Most other people will probably not though.
I mean it's kind of classic issues with unions. It doesn't work if only place is doing it, but the more that do, the less market they have access to. Europe is a pretty decent sized market, so it may still hurt. And if they do leave, well China certainly has a lot of their own homegrown solutions, so that's not an entirely unreasonable option.
No “just” is the beauty
Sure, they can try, I suppose… but that’s a lotta billions and a huge % of global rev
Whoever picked that color scheme is nuts. I can barely tell which are supposed to be the Americas and Europe.
Ya it’s bad
It's not Apple hate, it's finding ways to penalize companies that are meaningful.
By tying the penalty to global revenues, Apple can't simply move their revenue to somewhere else, like they did 20 years ago by going to Ireland.
See the story of Google being fined $500 million... How fast do they recoup that? Minutes or seconds?
I don't know, I'm still waiting for you to describe the problem.
The problem is how government entities dictate media corporations what to do. This time it's pro-consumer, the other time it might not be so.
That's not a problem, its exactly what governments exist for. Creating and enforcing laws.
The problem us that some corporations manage to manipulate governments by bribery to avoid regulation, not that government or regulations exist.
Are you a libertarian?
Nah I'm just Russian. Our government is an example of a problem, they tried to manipulate Apple and Google, and was successful to some extent.
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