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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.

Then retrain on that.

Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.

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[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

I read about this in a popular book by some guy named Orwell

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

Wasn't he the children's author who published the book about a talking animals learning the value of hard work or something?

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[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

First error to correct:

We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing ~~information~~ errors and deleting ~~errors~~ information.

[-] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 22 points 4 days ago

Aren't you not supposed to train LLMs on LLM-generated content?

Also he should call it Grok 5; so powerful that it skips over 4. That would be very characteristic of him

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There are, as I understand it, ways that you can train on AI generated material without inviting model collapse, but that's more to do with distilling the output of a model. What Musk is describing is absolutely wholesale confabulation being fed back into the next generation of their model, which would be very bad. It's also a total pipe dream. Getting an AI to rewrite something like the total training data set to your exact requirements, and verifying that it had done so satisfactorily would be an absolutely monumental undertaking. The compute time alone would be staggering and the human labour (to check the output) many times higher than that.

But the whiny little piss baby is mad that his own AI keeps fact checking him, and his engineers have already explained that coding it to lie doesn't really work because the training data tends to outweigh the initial prompt, so this is the best theory he can come up with for how he can "fix" his AI expressing reality's well known liberal bias.

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[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 days ago

How does anyone consider him a "genius"? This guy is just so stupid.

[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago

Guessing some kind of PR campaign that he purchased to make him look like a genius on TV and movies.

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[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

if you won't tell my truth I'll force you to acknowledge my truth.

nothing says abusive asshole more than this.

[-] kamen@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Don't feed the trolls.

[-] tonytins@pawb.social 22 points 5 days ago

That's a hell of way to say that he wants to rewrite history.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago

He knows more ... about knowledge... than... anyone alive now

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I'm just seeing bakes in the lies.

[-] TeddE@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Unironically Orwellian

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 13 points 4 days ago

I figure the whole point of this stuff is to trick people into replacing their own thoughts with these models, and effectively replace consensus reality with nonsense. Meanwhile, the oligarchy will utilise mass data collection via Palantir and ML to power the police state.

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[-] bieren@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago

Not sure if has been said already. Fuck musk.

[-] nthavoc@lemmy.today 6 points 4 days ago

Dude wants to do a lot of things and fails to accomplish what he says he's doing to do or ends up half-assing it. So let him take Grok and run it right into the ground like an autopiloted Cybertruck rolling over into a flame trench of an exploding Startship rocket still on the pad shooting flames out of tunnels made by the Boring Company.

[-] Flukas88@feddit.it 11 points 4 days ago

When you think he can't be more of a wanker with an ameba brain.... He surprises you

[-] hector@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago

This is it I'm adding 'Musk' to my block list I'm so tired of the pseudo intellectual bullshit with bad interpretation science fiction work

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[-] StonerCowboy@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago
[-] antihumanitarian@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Most if not all leading models use synthetic data extensively to do exactly this. However, the synthetic data needs to be well defined and essentially programmed by the data scientists. If you don't define the data very carefully, ideally math or programs you can verify as correct automatically, it's worse than useless. The scope is usually very narrow, no hitchhikers guide to the galaxy rewrite.

But in any case he's probably just parroting whatever his engineers pitched him to look smart and in charge.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

That's not how knowledge works. You can't just have an LLM hallucinate in missing gaps in knowledge and call it good.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

And then retrain on the hallucinated knowledge

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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

I have Twitter blocked at my router.

Please tell me one of the "politically incorrect but objectively true" facts was that Elon is a pedophile.

[-] leftthegroup@lemmings.world 6 points 4 days ago

Instead, he should improve humanity by dying. So much easier and everyone would be so much happier.

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 days ago

advanced reasoning

If it's so advanced, it should be able to reason out that all human knowledge is standing in the shoulders of others and how errors have prompted us to explore other areas and learn things we never would have otherwise.

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 5 points 4 days ago

remember when grok called e*on and t**mp a nazi? good times

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

What a fucking idiot

[-] nieceandtows@programming.dev 8 points 4 days ago

What a loser. He'll keep rewriting it until it fits his world-view

[-] Kurious84@eviltoast.org 9 points 4 days ago

Leme guess. The holocaust was a myth is first on his list.

He should just goto hell early.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago

I'm sure the second Grok in the human centipede will find that very nutritious.

If you use that Grok, you'll be third in the centipede. Enjoy.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

This is the Ministry of Truth.

This is the Ministry of Truth on AI.

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