Rural voters overwhelmingly voted for this. I have no sympathy. I'm downloading shit fast as fuck. And I'm using my symetric fiber to seed 24/7 the following torrents: CDC data removed from gov websites, data leak from Patriot Front (a local fascist movement in USA), and war crimes committed by IDF in Gaza. Plus a lot of porn.
Cheers, shitbags! You got what you voted for.
Frontier trounced all over Xfinity here because of this program. I now have fiber vs 300mbps (400 plan). So many blue dots around WV but the koolaid is in the water.
To be fair, this federal program was a cluster eff since they started it in about 2010. It passed a bunch of grant money through to the states, which all did different "things" with it. Most held semi-public meetings and planning sessions for 5-10 years or wrote detailed planning documents but never delivered any physical infrastructure (actual results to the residents).
Some states / towns hired ISPs who just pocketed the money with no consequences. Some towns even got fed up with no progress and started their own ISPs only to get sued by said corrupt ISP. Looking at you Verizon FiOS.
I'm confused. The article is talking about "BEAD" which wasn't passed until 2021. You must be talking about a different program.
Still no justification for this money to be funneled to felon musk.
I'm sure that there are examples of actually wasted money, but just putting it out there that planning is fucking important. There have been several high profile projects, like Texas high speed rail, where planning was the hard part and the project got canceled as they were ready to break ground because "there was no progress". Cue* Republicans "the government does nothing" after they stopped anything from happening. Infrastructure cannot operate on election cycle timelines.
Digging in the ground and integrating with existing infrastructure isn't just a plug and play operation. Leases and liens need to be sorted out. Estimates of current and future demand needs to be sorted out so you don't install useless networks. Fiber isn't that heavy, but "can the existing conduits under bridges/roads/etc support it and/or do they have room to without a complete replacement" isn't a trivial question for backbone lines.
Winging it just causes more problems as you find things you didn't anticipate and cause delays while having to continue paying contracts so work can resume once the delay is cleared. If you don't, the contractor is on to their next job and unavailable for an effectively random amount of time. While everyone is mad at you that "no work is being done".
It could be done faster, but it would cost more. Because planning is really important to keep multi-million/billion dollar projects accountable and on track.
*Cue
Most of this money was also "allocated" but not really spent. So at least to Bidens credit money wasn't thrown away, it just sat there not doing what it was supposed to do.
Yeah but does Iran have nukes? Checkmate!
I DoN’t CaRe wHaT yOu sAy. NiRaN MoST DefFiNiTeLY PRoBAblY HaS NUkEs!
Well, I'm honestly not convinced they don't. I mean, with renewables popping everywhere and providing a surplus of clean renewable non-geopolitical electricity, why would you pursue nuclear for the energy? You don't even need to build an actual nuclear explosive, you could just make endless dirty bombs.
Iran could cover itself in solar and wind and there you go. They'd have all the electricity they need, could probably build most of the shit themselves too, and have not just plausible, but total, nuclear deniability.
"America First" is one of his biggest lies
chanted by the same people flying "Don't tread on me" flags. what a joke.
Can't spell America without ME.
Not really a lie, just needs to come with a history lesson. The America First Committee was a fascist political group. Once you know that then it makes a lot more sense.
"They say America first, but what they mean is America next!"
What they mean was America first for the rich.
https://genius.com/Woody-guthrie-lindbergh-lyrics
"America First" was a slogan used by US fascists (like Charles Lindbergh) before WW2. The more things change, eh?
I got mine, even though it’s 1 gb down 300 mb up, but it’s still rural fiber.
taxes subsidized it and we get to pay extra https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/11/27/americans-fiber-optic-internet/
I would think the tech bros running things would want more people to train their models on.
I would think that Muskrat would like more customers for his satellite internet business.
Capitalism perverts all good intentions. It twists them to make a quick buck.
It's a cancer on society.
What's an average Internet connection like in the USA? How many megs down?
10gig symmetrical for $50/month on Sonic fiber. Still too expensive but I can't believe the rest of the US pays so much for so little, and worse thinks it's a great deal. Typical US speeds are 30 years behind but Americans are so very, very stupid.
I pay $60/mo for 1100 down, 50 up with Verizon.
I'm getting 270 down and 40 up. Fucking comcast has a monopoly in my area, so I'm paying $120/month for it unless I want to go back to DSL.
most areas have ISP monolopies, which is somewhat understandable given the high infrastructure costs etc. For that reason they should be regulated as utilities, but aren't because high speed internet isn't legally "essential" in the year of our lord 2025.
Heavily depends on where you live. I live near a big city on the east coast in a largely Blue state. I have 1 gig FiOS internet (up and down). In my area Comcast and Verizon compete for customers so our speeds here are alright. But there are plenty of areas in the US that have absolutely abysmal internet. Either because the area is rural so not much infrastructure has been built up or because the ISP in that area holds a monopoly on the market and doesn't have to increase speeds to keep their customers. I've heard horror stories of people being stuck with like sub 10mbps because there are just no other options.
not as fast as some third world countries, but here we worship our soon to be hanging from a fuckin noose wealthy fucks, I will fight any billionaires one on one anytime
Highest I've ever gotten was 200 down/10 up. My current is 50 down/10 up.
I pretty much always pay for the highest grade service in the area. Each time I've bought a home, I've researched the ISPs that service it and that also affected what the homes value was to me.
I probably have pretty close to the top of the curve with 1140mbps up/down according to my plan. In actuality though my speed test reads at 864 up and 859 down.
I get 100 down, 50 up, which is the max for my ISP. They're putting in fiber this year or next, so I'll probably upgrade once that happens.
So very glad I got to benefit from this 3 years ago, it is a true shame if it goes away. I get to be rural and work at a company in the city.
All of whom voted for this. So.
There isn't a single county in this country that votes 100% in either direction. So saying that "All of whom voted for this." is objectively incorrect.
Well, except for New York's Rockdale County which is the subject of a lawsuit recently in the news - fair enough.
I yield to the overwhelming logic that a vast oversimplification may not be 100% correct.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? No.
It doesn't matter what rural areas vote for. They're all gerrymandered to shit just like the cities are.
The political elite on both sides have a good chunk of us fighting each other instead of them. So, congrats on falling for the same bullshit.
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? No.
I’ve seen more than my share of “red” counties. They’re only gerrymandered when there’s an obvious threat to red state hegemony. Full of good people who fall for stupid lies every goddamn time despite the world of information available to them. The FoxNews miasma that hangs like suffocating humidity in every auto garage and bleak box store parking lot. The fist of Jesus in every lifted truck window.
Take your “both sides” bullshit to someone else.
Republican (but lets be fair here, most) states basically just threw their hands up and left it up to the "experts" (or their friends in the cable/local phone monopoly) for planning BEAD funds. Really it's a failure of American politics and a case study on how baseline corrupt the average state is.
The only place that has actually gotten its shit together is, of all places, North Dakota, they have almost universal fiber access across the whole state, if you have power, you probably have fiber. All of contiguous America could have the same, only local politics stands in the way.
Utah has also built out locally owned open-access municipal fiber, despite the best attempts from the Comcast/CenturyLink lobby and state legislature to kill it; among other projects in WA, TN, IA.
That article has a pretty extreme example: guy on 21 acres atop a steep ridge who doesn’t have phone service or running water or probably any infrastructure. There’s going to be people you can’t reach with fiber and this may be one of them. We can argue about that when the other 99% has fast internet service
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