The article makes a great point that there are just too many coincidences in all of this, the theories behind the tech also seem quite sound.
The flipping of swing states on election day but not flipping enough to trigger a recount, so suspicious how a criminal president could be so popular. Especially when many people knew what was at stake, project 2025 had been vocalized a lot.
With the Dominion voting lawsuit in place as precedent, whomever is gonna make these election claims better have an airtight fucking defense.
It would almost be suspicious if they didn't sue with such a big case to back them up
I believe the court case will weigh the available evidence: https://apnews.com/press-release/access-newswire/diane-sare-kamala-harris-kamala-harris-es-kirsten-gillibrand-new-hampshire-225173eaaf66b420844508516b365caf
Momentum is building on this one.
Either people looking into this are going to be “discouraged” or more evidence will be examined and a consensus will arrive.
Not saying which way. IMO the rhetoric of Trump prior to the election was basically a confession and I’ve no doubt the election was interfered with. Without any evidence, that is :|
I agree. While the main article is goes deep into obscure (albeit interesting) machinations, your article is very on point. It starts with
if you’re expecting a sexy story about Elon Musk messing with vote-counting software from outer space, sorry, you won’t get that here.
And then lays down the numbers:
— 4,776,706 voters were wrongly purged from voter rolls according to US Elections Assistance Commission data.
— By August of 2024, for the first time since 1946, self-proclaimed “vigilante” voter-fraud hunters challenged the rights of 317,886 voters. The NAACP of Georgia estimates that by Election Day, the challenges exceeded 200,000 in Georgia alone.
— No fewer than 2,121,000 mail-in ballots were disqualified for minor clerical errors (e.g. postage due).
— At least 585,000 ballots cast in-precinct were also disqualified.
— 1,216,000 “provisional” ballots were rejected, not counted.
— 3.24 million new registrations were rejected or not entered on the rolls in time to vote.
It continues listing concrete things people can directly influence. I liked the article, thank you soo much. Very insightful.
The numbers feel too coincidental and so a theory like space-based voting machine fraud doesn't seem as outlandish as it should. At the same time, it attributes to these people a level of finesse and planning that I just don't see from them.
The brute force "suppress votes and lie constantly" is much more Trump's style. It's basically his whole brand.
Hitler was a moron, that doesn't mean the Nazis didn't have any clever engineers.
That argument is straightforward and clear and should be spread more widely than it is.
How is this relevant? Not only you have a king now, but he wasn't elected by popular vote anyways, he was elected by the electoral college, who aren't bound to follow the popular vote.
The relevance is that when he is overthrown, the history books will have more justifications as to why
Y'all say these things sometimes that make one think you just wander around in a nihilistic haze of submission and defeatism.
Substack hosts Nazis. I'm not clicking that link
No problem, it's just editorialising the actual suit, so you can read about the details from the AP: https://apnews.com/press-release/access-newswire/diane-sare-kamala-harris-kamala-harris-es-kirsten-gillibrand-new-hampshire-225173eaaf66b420844508516b365caf
You know there's fascist instances on fediverse, right?
One of the great things of federation is that those instances get blocked by these great people called mods and admins. Substack doesn't do that.
Here's to hoping this comments' downvotes get an explanation or I'm assuming they're just coming from nazis without a dignified retort \_ (ツ)_/¯
Logic dictates it's a dumb thing to post, nazis likely use every site in existence, good luck never using a service that they also use.
Just because a shitty group of people use a product, doesn't necessarily mean the product itself is the problem, additionally in this case it's specifically being used for a good purpose.
Imagine if you will, a product the can cure horses of parasitic worms, but idiots use it to try and cure themselves of a disease we have an actual cure for, and someone comes along and says hey I used this stuff to cure my horse and this guy comes in and says, "Well actually, people used that product improperly so actually it's bad."
People boo them, and you say, "man all these people sure love taking this product improperly"
I hope your 'logic' also dictates a difference between using a product and (condoning) publishing/monetizing pro-nazi content. Hopefully most can see how one is a potential issue at the least. I know we all gotta eat tho--and to that end I don't wish to throw shade unnecessarily.
Mien Kampf was written on paper, we shouldn't use paper.
Ah yes great point getting to the core of my post by using false analogies, red herrings and appeals to ridicule
Your logic dictates strange paths to truth friend.
I'm specifically pointing out that's the logic being applied by the original response, which I made more clear with my example
I understand what you think you're pointing out (I was also hoping you were familiar with the fallacies I listed so you could maybe refine your position).
I still believe platforms like Substack have a responsibility to try to avoid enabling harmful (such as nazi) ideologies. Do you think you could spell out a logic for why I shouldn't hold this belief? Preferably without unrelated analogies that distract from a simple coherent argument if possible
See if you weren't being an antagonistic ass the whole time I'd put forth the time and effort to give a response, but you just want to be a dick every other sentence so why bother?
That's a lot of effort to say no, isn't it? lol Feel free to point out where specifically I was 'being an antagonistic ass' so that I may better myself and others.
I completely respect you if you find that inconvenience not worth bothering with either. I wish only peace for you and your loved ones chief!
The thing is, I like having conversations with people in good faith, I've learned a lot that way, however to your question.
I understand what you think you're pointing out
Do you think you could spell out a logic for why I shouldn't hold this belief?
Preferably without unrelated analogies that distract from a simple coherent argument if possible
These three statements are clearly antagonistic and not seemingly in any form of good faith discussion so, I could reasonably expect similar fun with any further discussion.
I didn't say you should believe anything, I merely pointed out that the initial statement doesnt add to the conversation and people of course downvoted it. And then explained why the response of "anyone who would downvoted this is just a nazi" is a dumb thing to say lol.
I'm sorry you feel this way. I thought logic was at the core of what was being conversed so I didn't bother much with appeasing to emotional sensitivities--especially when you opened with 'logic dictates' then proceeded to make one of the most blatantly fallacious pseudo-arguments I've ever come across.
Then again you're also doing a lot of bothering to not be bothered with my simple (yet antagonistic) questions as well, so perhaps there's something to be said about such a state of consistent inner-conflict. I'm obsessed with how people ignore their own faults you could say. Thank you for the help comrade
You must be fun at parties
Omg are you trapped in 2015? Starting a reply with "logic dictates" is so gamergate coded. Learn some basic philosophy before saying stuff like that because it demonstrates you have no idea what objectivity or subjectivity are.
Ah yes great point getting to the core of my post by saying it's gamer gate coded and ignoring the logic in my metaphor.
You like the word logic a bit much for someone who doesn't know what it means. You a podcast listener?
Just take the L and move on, it's not that big of a deal
Ok Nazi defender
You're devaluing the power of the word by misapplying it to anyone who you feel has slighted you.
The funny thing is, I took a gander at your post history, and we agree on a lot, but this one thing to you makes me a nazi apologist.
You support platforming Nazis therefore you are a Nazi apologist.
To be clear, my point is that your pointless comment on a post about election fraud was posted on SUBSTACK. Out of this, the most important thing to you is the platform the information is provided from, because the platform has nazis on it. Which again, is an unfortunate reality in the world we live in, I'd equally love to have a place where people aren't driven to insane extremist beliefs and infect other people with their hate and vitriol, but that's not the world we live in. So maybe you should use your energy on something more productive?
Prolly some Nazis on Lemmy?
I've reported a couple and had them taken down. Try that on Substack.
It was weak and impotent when the Republicans did it. So I guess the Democrats feel left out.
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