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The Italian [state] had demanded a licensing agreement for the commercial use of one of the Renaissance master's most famous drawings, despite the fact that he died more than 500 years ago, placing his works in the public domain under international copyright law.

The [Italian] plaintiffs argued that a domestic law aimed at protecting Italy's cultural heritage meant they had the authority to demand agreements with those who profit from culturally significant artworks, even if they are based abroad.

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[-] einkorn@feddit.org 14 points 3 days ago

Is it cultural appropriation if a state appropriates the work of an artist because it deems it culturally relevant? /s 🤔

On a more serious note: This could have probably served as a blueprint for Big Mouse if it had been successful.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

This may not be over. The Italian state can attempt to get its way on the EU level via new laws. It wouldn't surprise me if that succeeded.

I'm puzzled why they even thought it would be possible to enforce their Italian laws outside of Italy.

[-] b_tr3e@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

This and only this is a valid case of cultural appropriation. Acquiring copyright for work in the public domain and denying legitimate use. Having a hairstyle somebody else does not like has nothing to do with it. Nor does an artist's ethnicity, surface color or sexual orientattion. These are just pretexts for self-declared "defenders of the faith" to discriminate arbitrarily agains whoever they want.

[-] germanatlas 1 points 1 day ago

Don’t give Disney any ideas, Italy

[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Germany can't stop winning on the cost of Italy's economy! /s

Looks like they now gotta promote their heritage with more recent painters. Idk, Carcupino would probably resonate with those people idolising the 50s? But maybe they specifically chose Renaissance painters to not have to share any money with relatives.

In any case, right decision. No matter how culturally relevant, if it's been more than a century you gotta let people use it in any way they want, be it ever so disrespectful. Can't wait for the Vetruvian man budget horror flick.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The law stays in effect in Italy. The state (the ministry of cultural heritage), collects license fees for artworks in public museums, even when copyright law says that they are public domain.

A German game maker produced a jigsaw puzzle of this famous da Vinci drawing. The Italian ministry demanded 10% of global revenue, but the company only offered 10% of Italian revenue. An Italian court had sided with the ministry. This German court has found that, while it can do what it likes in Italy, the Italian state has no power outside its borders.

[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I know, I meant more so if they want to promote other Italian heritage in the future.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Primitive accumulation.

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