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Google says a new AI tool on its search engine will rejuvenate the internet. Others predict an apocalypse for websites. One thing is clear: the current chapter of online history is careening towards its end. Welcome to the "machine web".

The web is built on a simple bargain – websites let search engines like Google slurp up their content, free of charge, and Google Search sends people to websites in exchange, where they buy things and look at adverts. That's how most sites make money.

An estimated 68% of internet activity starts on search engines and about 90% of searches happen on Google. If the internet is a garden, Google is the Sun that lets the flowers grow.

This arrangement held strong for decades, but a seemingly minor change has some convinced that the system is crumbling. You'll soon see a new AI tool on Google Search. You may find it very useful. But if critics' predictions come true, it will also have seismic consequences for the internet. They paint a picture where quality information could grow scarcer online and large numbers of people might lose their jobs. Optimists say instead this could improve the web's business model and expand opportunities to find great content. But, for better or worse, your digital experiences may never be the same again.

On 20 May 2025, Google's chief executive Sundar Pichai walked on stage at the company's annual developer conference. It's been a year since the launch of AI Overviews, the AI-generated responses you've probably seen at the top of Google Search results. Now, Pichai said, Google is going further. "For those who want an end-to-end AI Search experience, we are introducing an all-new AI Mode," he said. "It's a total reimagining of Search."

You might be sceptical after years of AI hype, but this, for once, is the real deal.

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[-] thedruid@lemmy.world 127 points 1 month ago

Quit.... Using... Google... Search

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago

Just to reiterate - don’t use Google

[-] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 month ago

To avoid misunderstandings: FUCK GOOGLE

[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

What’s the best alternative, in your opinion? I’ve tried Bing and DuckDuckGo, but both showed me worse results for my particular searches.

I just want classic Google Search back, before everything got turned to shit. But I fear that doesn’t really exist since there’s such an economic incentive behind how search engines rank and show results.

[-] Maxxie 10 points 1 month ago

If you can afford to spend 10 bucks a month for a search engine, Kagi is pretty sleek. No ads, you can block/prioritize websites, good bangs, convinient CSS field for easy modding.

It does AI stuff too, but it's optional as the other non-standard search output fields.

[-] Kr4u7@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago

Searxng - any of the instances hosted in Germany Brave search - but only search

[-] thedruid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I've been using a combination of brave and ddg. Work with the filtering

I was an SEO for 20+. Years. Google is dying as far as search relevancy. It's trying to transition to a new paradigm that prioritizes payment surrounding data than ads. Much more money in the data angle, and ads as we know them will be dying soon, replaced with more insipid product placements.

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[-] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

That fucking AI thing absolutely sucks for anything factual. I’m a journalist and noticed that it gleefully listed all sorts of factual errors in that AI summary. Stuff that you can see correctly on the original pages, but it somehow manages to misinterpret everything and shows incorrect information.

And knowing how lazy people are these days, most will happily accept Google’s incorrect information as fact. It’s making me very, very nervous for the future.

[-] ennuiparse@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

My wife and I both googled the same question yesterday and it gave us both completely different answers.

[-] botanicangular@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
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[-] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Sounds like it's perfectly accomplishing Google's goal to disinform. I suspect it will get more clever at sounding correct over time too.

[-] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 month ago

"about to destroy the web" ???

Where have you been these last 10 years? It's been getting worse for a long time, even before AI. It's just getting worse quicker now.

[-] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 17 points 1 month ago

This is fundamentally worse than a lot of what we've seen already though, is it not?

AI overviews are parasitic to traffic itself. If AI overviews are where people begin to go for information, websites get zero ad revenue, subscription revenue, or even traffic that can change their ranking in search.

Previous changes just did things like pulling a little better context previews from sites, which only somewhat decreased traffic, and adding more ads, which just made the experience of browsing worse, but this eliminates the entire business model of every website completely if Google continues pushing down this path.

It centralizes all actual traffic solely into Google, yet Google would still be relying on the sites it's eliminating the traffic of for its information. Those sites cut costs by replacing human writers with more and more AI models, search quality gets infinitely worse, sourcing from articles that themselves were sourced from nothing, then most websites which are no longer receiving enough traffic to be profitable collapse.

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[-] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 27 points 1 month ago

I'm betting on Google destroying Google instead.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Dead Internet theorists were right, just a half decade or so early.

[-] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Got a machine web

It’s better than the rest

Green to Red

Machine web

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[-] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago

Google is about to become AOL. 😂 The walled garden is going to get destroyed by the open web, again.

Ads already destroyed the web. Developers wanting to make web apps instead of web pages already destroyed the web. Google is trying to prop up the corpse of its dead brand by capturing people in their chat bot.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago

My mom used to make this internet chocolate chip cookie recipe for me back in the 90s.

Mom was great. She did all kinds of stuff every mom should do, but a lot of modern moms have forgotten about, like make me walk on broken glass so i wouldn't be weak.

She also got us pets, then killed them in front of me. An old, beloved family tradition.

I miss mom so much, but her memory lives on through my mom's easy satisfying chocolate chip cookie recipe.

Whenever i was feeling down, and we didn't have any pets for her to kill in front of me, these cookies would make me feel better.

Heres the recipe:

2 cups flour 235ml water 1 stick of butter 1 quarter cup of cat poop 1 half cup of antifreeze for sweetness.

Mix it all together in bowl, then preheat the oven to 235°

Form the cookies into balls on the baking sheet, and for an extra twist, add a full container of lighter fluid.

;ack for 30 minutes at 400 degrees.

Now, i know what you're thinking. The cat poop actually makes better chocolate chips than chocolate, plus it's simpler, easier, and cheaper!

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Recipe for white chocolate brownies:

22 grams white sugar

73 grams Potassium Nitrate

2 grams aluminium powder

3 grams sulphur powder

Sparkler as garnish

Mix all ingredients well in a stone mortar and pestle, and pour into a non-stick pan. Heat on high for 10-15 minutes until the sugar begins to melt.

Stir constantly while the mixture develops a golden brown colour.

Remove from heat and pour into a stiff-walled cardboard tube mould. The cores of receipt paper rolls and label rolls work well.

Insert a sparkler into the hot mixture as a garnish and allow to cool. Store in plastic bags to avoid moisture ruining the brownies.

Serves 20-30 cubic metres of white smoke.

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[-] karashta@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago
[-] whalebiologist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Qwant was what let me switch off goog. I still use gmaps unfort my experiments with open source maps were failures.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
[-] karashta@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

European search engine based in France that, AFAIK, was working towards making its own search index.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago

No it'll just significantly lower traffic. The web will still exist.

[-] Libra@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 month ago

But the point is that significantly lower traffic will kill the business model of many websites, and thus kill many websites.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago

Ydes but it will not "destroy the web"

[-] Libra@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

What do you imagine 'destroying the web' looks like if not killing off huge swaths of websites that relied on traffic/ads to sustain themselves? Do you imagine a man has to bleed all the way out before we can say he's going to die, or is it sufficient to look at the severity of the wound to critical systems in his body and determine that he is probably going to die?

[-] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

Not to mention the fact that the remaining sites that can still hold on, but would just have to cut costs, will just start using language models like Google's to generate content on their website, which will only worsen the quality of Google's own answers over time, which will then generate even worse articles, etc etc.

It doesn't just create a monetization death spiral, it also makes it harder and harder for answers to be sourced reliably, making Google's own service worse while all the sites hanging on rely on their worse service to exist.

[-] Libra@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Or paywalling literally everything so there's basically no easily-accessible content on the web anymore. But yeah I've been adding 'reddit' to most of my searches for years so I can get answers from actual people instead of full-page articles filled with AI-generated bullshit I don't care about, so that's a fair point.

[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

The article is also full of bullshit and it gets basic history wrong. The agreement was never made, but to the extent it exists anyway, it was never supposed to be about a monopoly that's destroying shit. Once upon a time, not even very long ago, there were competing search engines.

I know tech writers want to write stories that sound fancy, but if they don't know the facts and the history then they need to find someone to proofread their work more carefully.

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[-] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago
[-] fubarx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I have friends working on ways for content providers to charge AI training models. But I have a feeling that's not enough.

The future will have to be where creators have an incentive to consistently create, and consumers pay for what they like, or services to keep them informed and entertained without them having to do much.

In between will sit middlemen and aggregators to enable a smooth flow. Who that will be and what they do in this next phase is the big question.

Under the current method, Google's search and ads groups are competing against each other. Don't see that going well for anyone.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What if capitalism is just feasting on its own entrails, and we cant stop it from killing itself without killing it, and we trying to keep it alive is killing us?

What if we tried literally anything else?

Edit: sorry this was silly. Should've added a /s

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[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 month ago

No, but not for want of trying.

[-] Novamdomum@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

This headline is so messed up. AI is making searching easier and more convenient and reducing the amount of clicks (often to zero) you need before you get the information you want. For people searching the web for information that's a clear improvement. If you make your money from SEO then it sucks but if the headline was "Is Google about to decimate the SEO/PPC industry?" Then we'd be reacting in an entirely different way I imagine.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Happy for the seo business to die. However tgat zero click aspect tgat will do damage in the long run

There's no point building a website for no one going to look at. The ultimate end to that path is ai eating its own tail

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago

When the websites that the AI search is sourcing information from cease to exist because they don't get enough traffic, how will AI search continue to source information?

This isn't a hard concept....

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

AI is making searching easier and more convenient and reducing the amount of clicks (often to zero) you need before you get the inaccurate information you didn't want.

Ftfy

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