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[-] jim@programming.dev 123 points 1 month ago

I think a few folks haven't read the article or know who Jeff Geerling is. The title of this article is confusing.

Jeff posted a video on YT about how to self-host your own media in 2024. He recently got a violation from YT that YT considers his video to be harmful and dangerous. He appealed, got denied, but then the update is that YT removed the violation.

[-] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 month ago

Saw the video… It mentions ”ripping” and even shows clips of some blockbuster movies. No wonder any copyright-sensitive automation gets triggered pretty fast. This will only get worse.

[-] dieTasse@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

I think if the ripping includes de-DRM-ing it's is illegal in a lot of countries. I am not saying it's right, we should own our own content, I am just saying it as a fact.

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[-] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

What if I decide to digitize my entire movie catalog? I would have to rip those DVDs and blurays...

[-] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah. That's illegal in lots of countries.

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

But it is legal in the country he lives in as well as the country YouTube is headquartered in.

[-] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Is it? I'm not totally sure, as I'm not from the US but I think the DMCA is the nasty player in this game.

[-] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Technically I'm half right and half wrong (I think). It's not illegal to backup media that one owns, but it is illegal to break DRM/copy protection which is required to rip most physical media these days.

Suffice to say the legality of it is a cluster fuck, but the morality, in my opinion, is pretty clear. Fuck the corpos.

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[-] couldbealeotard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

A lot of people don't realise that the application of the VCR was technically copyright infringement, especially so when you lent tapes to your friends.

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[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 74 points 1 month ago

It says (updated) but what is the update?

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 151 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Update (one day later):

YouTube has just reinstated the video, after what I presume is a human review process. I wish it didn't take making noise on socials to get past the 'AI deny' process :(

Go forth, and self-host all the things! I'll post further updates in this issue in my YouTube project.

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 33 points 1 month ago

Go forth, and self-host all the things!

He means self-hosting as in hosting his own PeerTube instance? Right??? 🙏

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

if you read further, he writes about peertube too

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 10 points 1 month ago

Yes, he says he's dependent on the ad revenue. However, no one is asking for him to drop YouTube. Also posting on PeerTube will simply have him reach more viewers. It won't move viewers away from YouTube.

[-] BlessedDog@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

All European citizens have the right to object to automated decision making under the GDPR

[-] non_burglar@lemmy.world 79 points 1 month ago

YouTube restored the video, but not until Jeff had made a huge stink about it (and rightfully so, those yt fuckers can eat a dick).

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 1 month ago

I hate youtube so much. When are they moving all to ~~freetube~~ peertube or something? How long do we all accept Google youtube?

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 12 points 1 month ago

When are they moving all to freetube or something?

Unless I'm missing something Freetube is a client. So it wouldn't be Jeff moving to freetube it would be you using freetube to watch his content on YT.

I'm guessing you meant peertube instead of freetube and your answer there is "When they can get paid." Making content takes time and costs money and YT pays creators like Jeff for doing it.

I dislike YT alot but there's financial decisions at play here that can't really be argued with.

[-] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

It's not one or the other though. Peertube with patreon can exist alongside YouTube

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[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 month ago

Ah yes peertube. There it goes wrong already. The name is too much alike.

[-] non_burglar@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

They're the 800lb gorilla, and no other platform can create "youtuber" income, so it's a real problem for people like Jeff Geerling to move from yt, even if they know it's bad, because it's a major part or all of their income.

[-] irotsoma 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah, and it was a one off restore, so others who are mentioning self hosting will still be taken down as long as that policy remains.

[-] non_burglar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I agree.

I will add, however, that Jeff's main concern isn't the policy itself, but that he and other youtubers can't see it or know what the rules are. The lack of transparency is the real issue.

[-] django@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 month ago

Update (one day later):

YouTube has just reinstated the video, after what I presume is a human review process. I wish it didn't take making noise on socials to get past the 'AI deny' process :(

[-] lefixxx@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah I remember once when my friends Synology started acting harmful when he run jellyfin on it. it started off gasing mustard gas. It poisoned the well and made his son addicted to zyns. All of the cars in his neighborhood needed new batteries. The country's GTP dropped a lot that month and the ozone layer is gone. Thank God YouTube stopped platforming such harmful content. Too bad so luch damage has already been done.

[-] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

Synology is already enshittifying itself

[-] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

I would go so far as to say they are already in a shit state, but they're just not stopping the process yet.

[-] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago

Yes, exactly. The server I run jellyfin on kept promising me cake, though I am fairly certain the cake is a lie.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 63 points 1 month ago

Jeff should consider hosting on Peertube and keeping his Patreon active. He's awesome and more than capable, I'd mirror him in a hot second.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

He's on float plane. I think he's trying to make a living, so I'd assume YouTube ad revenue is a factor

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

He's on float plane

I'll never support anyone on that platform. I'll never do anything to give LTT a cent.

[-] oppy1984@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah I'm not big on LTT either, I'd like to see him on Nebula. The price is reasonable and they have some really good high quality content.

[-] grozzle@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

I seem to remember Jeff explaining his choice, and a big factor was that Nebula doesn't have comments under videos, nor any other similar forums for video posters and watchers to chat. I think he said he wouldn't be happy without that direct interaction.

[-] oppy1984@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I admit I don't watch every video, I'm subscribed but I just kind of let videos come to my home feed and watch that way. I mainly use YT as background noise while doing something else.

His reasoning makes sense, so I guess I'll just continue to watch on YT since I have no desire to join FP. Thanks for the info!

[-] dieTasse@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago
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[-] dieTasse@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

Can you tell me more please? Or send a link please? I would like to know what happened, thanks.

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

It's been talked about to death. It's been analysed to death.

But here's a very detailed and thorough breakdown:

https://youtu.be/0Udn7WNOrvQ

[-] dieTasse@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

I see, you mean this, I thought there is something new. Thank you for sharing. What I didn't like about Luise's contribution to this drama is that he focused solely on LTT's side and didn't mention the other side. Because I think both sides made some mistakes.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Flotplane is a decent enough alternative. They keep gutting YouTube's ad-rev, sooner or later, something will have to give.

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 49 points 1 month ago
[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Hey kid.... You wanna self host an api call? 😈

[-] truxnell@aussie.zone 11 points 1 month ago

You wouldn't steal an API call...

[-] nick_99@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Would YOU download an API call?

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[-] suswrkr@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago

it would be amazing if geerlingguy was the one to make youtube go mask off

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Google has been mask off since they removed "don't be evil" as their slogan, and they've been proving it ever since. Apparently people don't pay attention!

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