The USA supported the Nazis in the beginning and were reluctant to intervene. Then we did and took all the credit. It was to weaken Russia. Now the world is a global capitalist hellhole. Chynah is capitalist and Russia is capitalist. You are a subject. You are not free. Freedom is relative and bound by natural law. Unions need leverage. Thank gawd all men die.
It was for a variety of reasons that all aligned ~~when German u-boats sank the lusitania.~~. Wait that was WW1. I've gotta go read some wikipedia.
By killing them. You can't defeat a nazi in debate, but you can hang them.
We never beat them.
The west ensured that Nazism survived, filling the ranks of West Germany's security services with them and then institutionalising fascist terrorist groups all throughout Europe through it's "Gladio" networks. Japan's economy was essentially just handed back to the very same pack of colonialists and industrialists that had fuelled Japan's imperialism in the 20s.
Hell, even the Romanian Communist Party got in on the act - those vicious Iron Guard bastards were just too good at torture and murder to pass up, I guess.
So no... we never beat them.
Maybe it's too pedantic of me but I think we beat them. We failed to fix the corrupted system that spawned them. The inequity and the propaganda, The oligarchs pitting a us against each other. Marginalizing groups as scapegoats.
We (the US) let those little those freedom checks and balances we were touted in school be destroyed with barely a whimper
You're wrong, they did not fail it was intentionally.
US/UK made sure plenty of fascists escaped after surrendering to them.
Kept them in power in all of Europe with a slap on the wrist at most.
How many nazis where trialed at the Nuremberg virtue signaling trials? 24.
NATO literally had fascist regimes in it, Spain, Portugal, Greece.
Even leading NATO/EU and various countries. .
All of this has been swept under the carpet.
https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich
https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2024/01/12/nato-as-seen-from-one-who-grew-up-under-us-sponsored-neofascism-unherd/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOo
Scratch a fascist and a liberal bleeds - see, that's how you can tell that we did not, in fact, defeat the fascists - if we did, liberalism would be dead and buried, too.
Instead, we allowed "liberal democracy" to nurse fascism back to health, hone it's murderousness by using it as a tool of colonialist domination, and pretend to be shocked when these fascists just suddenly show up to protect their precious capitalist status quo back home in the imperial core.
None of that was an accident - when we say fascism is just colonialism coming home to roost we don't mean it figuratively.
Eloquent, but also bull#$%. What would you do? Execute every last person in Germany and Japan to make sure you rooted out the fascists? None of the fasscists that were alive then are in charge of what's going on now. The neofacisct groups have nothing to do with WWII other than they decided to celebrate them. This isn't the problem of an organization allowed to thrive and grow, it's an ideal that's being picked up by people and used as a tool.
Oh, it's "bull#$%," eh?
No, Clyde, I'll tell you what is actually bullshit - people like YOU literally WATCHING both liberals and fascists play their respective parts to protect the status quo right in front of your goddamn eyes and STILL pretending that any of this is some great mystery to you.
That's bullshit.
Can we reclaim the Pepe?
It's already been done. I've seen tons of regular ho-hum non-racist Pepes the past few years since Matt Furie killed off the character in the official comics.
I mean the vast vast majority of them have always been innocuous. The racist ones were always very rare pepes
From the only licensed Pepe plush.
From Boy’s Club comics to appropriated alt right symbol (WT actual F tho), Pepe has often been misunderstood. That's why we work with his creator Matt Furie to make the only officially licensed Pepe toy out there. Feels good man.
We partner with youth shelters and people who care to make sure all of our goodies do some good...ies.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
They never had pepe on their side it was just a scam
But the call is coming from inside the house this time.
The call was always coming from inside the house - fascism is just colonialism coming home to roost, after all.
Yeah, the two most prominent examples of fascism in history (Germany and Italy) were only beaten by a combined military power much, much greater than them. Even as they were literally being bombed into rubble and their military situation was beyond hopeless, they never overthrew their fascist leaders.
Maybe they're only the most prominent b/c they weren't stopped?
Remember the mid-2000's Ukrainians Orange revolution? I wouldn't be surprised you don't b/c those fasciat losers were stopped from within, so we don't talk about them too often. Which is good, honestly.
Yep. And the most prominent fascist power that wasn't overthrown externally (Francoist Spain) lasted 40 years until it's demogogue died. The reason it wasn't a bigger problem for the world at large was that it was a politically isolated minor power.
The world hasn't yet seen something like an (openly) fascist modern USA.
Guys you lost.
Pepe did nothing wrong
Yeah I thought we had moved past this whole pepe is alt-right thing. He's a beloved little goof.
The Nazis can take my little pepes out of my cold dead hands
Bro leave Pepe out of this ;w;
Down with MAGA!
The Soviets beat them. LOL
Shows how much you 'socialists' know.
No country alone beat them. The Soviets did more than the others but it wasn't them alone
85 fucking percent.
You can dislike that all you want, these are facts.
The trouble is: the poster misrepresents the situation. The guy wearing the red hat is the one holding the rifle and bayonet this time.
So were the nazis. We just out rifle'd and bayonette'd them.
I've been saying for a while that the left in the US needs to embrace the 2nd ammendment.
Dark times are fast approaching... be prepared
Sounds like you better fix that
I'm being downvoted for pointing out an obvious discrepancy, one that needs to be recognized and reckoned with?
In WW2 the full federal might of the United States government and armed forces were aligned against the Axis.
Which side is the administration on now? Against whom were the National Guard and Marines deployed against this week? Reality check time.
Does it make you feel better to lash out and rage against people who agree with you, who are on your side and opposed to the bullshit we're all facing? Slipping into a comfy fantasy, where we imagine the "good guys" have the guns and power this time, isn't productive, unless it's motivating you to arm yourself and build solidarity. Do you have your rifle and bayonet? I do. Are you supporting people who are with you, or are you just sitting in your chair screaming at the wrong people on the Internet?
More left victory memes for the cause ❤️
Unionists versus the confederates all over again, history definitely repeats itself
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