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Corporate VPN startup Tailscale secures $230 million CAD Series C on back of “surprising” growth

Pennarun confirmed the company had been approached by potential acquirers, but told BetaKit that the company intends to grow as a private company and work towards an initial public offering (IPO).

“Tailscale intends to remain independent and we are on a likely IPO track, although any IPO is several years out,” Pennarun said. “Meanwhile, we have an extremely efficient business model, rapid revenue acceleration, and a long runway that allows us to become profitable when needed, which means we can weather all kinds of economic storms.”

Keep that in mind as you ponder whether and when to switch to self-hosting Headscale.

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[-] Wahots@pawb.social 44 points 1 week ago

Are there better alternatives? I was planning on using tailscale until now. :P

[-] MangoPenguin@piefed.social 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Wireguard if you're just using it yourself. Many various ways to manage it, and it's built in to most routers already.

Otherwise Headscale with one of the webUIs would be the closest replacement.

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[-] exu@feditown.com 21 points 1 week ago

A bunch really, Headscale with Tailscale client, Nebula VPN, Netmaker, Zerotier.

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[-] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

I use the built in wireguard VPN in my router. If you just need local network access elsewhere it's usually really easy to setup if your router provides it. I would look into it!

[-] 4k93n2@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

ive been eyeing up netbird but havnt got around to trying it yet. its fully open source at least, and theyre based in germany is anyone cares about that

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Just looked at NetBird, it looks suspiciously similar to Tailscale in what it does except they also got an open-source control server. They have self-hosting doc right in their web site. Looks interesting. Can't find much about the company other than it's based in Berlin and it's currently private - Wiretrustee UG.

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[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago

I think I'll just keep using tailscale until they start enshittifying, and then set up a Headscale instance on a VPS - no need to take this step ahead of time, right?

I mean, all the people saying they can avoid any issues by doing the above - what's to stop Tailscale dropping support for Headscale in future if they're serious about enshitification? Their Linux & Android clients are open source, but not IOS or Windows so they could easily block access for them.

My point being - I'll worry when there is something substantial to worry about, til then they can know I'm using like 3 devices and a github account to authenticate. MagicDNS and the reliability of the clients is just too good for me to switch over mild funding concerns.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah, as I said, it's a friendly reminder. I'm personally probably doing it this year. It's entirely possible that enshittification could come even years from now. It all depends on how their enterprise adoption goes I think. The more money they make there, the longer the individual users are gonna be left unsqueezed.

[-] cooopsspace@infosec.pub 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Friendly reminder that Tailscale is VC-funded and driving towards IPO

You know what's to come.

The answer to the question is immediately. Or switch to OpenZiti or Pangolin even.

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[-] rarbg@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago

Nerds stop recommending corporate crap: challenge: impossible

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago

What's the benefit over just WG?

[-] Starfighter@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You dont need to manually handle the WG config files. This isn't really an issue when it's just you and your two devices, but once you start supporting more people, like non-technical family members, this gets really annoying really quickly.

Tailscale (and headscale) just require you to log in, which even those family members can manage and then does the rest for you. They also support SSO in which case you wouldn't even have to create new accounts.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

Easier/zero configuration compared to manual WG setup. Takes care of ports and providing transparent relay when no direct connection works.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Your tech illiterate grandma can set it up. It’s that easy.

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[-] ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

If I host headscale on a VPS, is that as seamless of an experience as Tailscale? And would I miss out on features, like the Tailscale dashboard? How does the experience change for me (an admin type) and my users (non-technical types)?

[-] MangoPenguin@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are some community webUIs for Headscale, headplane in particular looks pretty good: https://headscale.net/stable/ref/integration/web-ui/

I'm not sure otherwise how different the experience would be.

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[-] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 18 points 1 week ago

Crap, I really need to switch of Tailscale but currently it is an easy way for me to access my stuff outside of home as a temporary solution while I am on a 5G modem.

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[-] dabe@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Am I totally off-base in thinking that MagicDNS and pluggable DNS nameserver overrides are a huge feature of tailscale?

I love that I can refer to my tailnet devices just via their machine name. I use it everywhere. And also that I can just slot in my NextDNS ID so that any device running tailscale now automatically uses that, and I don’t have to mess with my shared router settings or per device settings. Is all that actually really easy to set up outside of tailscale? Cuz if it is and I just somehow missed that when doing all my research, I’ll happily give plain wireguard or other mesh orchestrators like NetBird a go.

And I already know that mDNS is not the answer. That protocol is simply not reliable enough.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

I use wireguard and have public DNS refer to private IPs.

For example if my server is accessible at 10.0.0.1 via wireguard then I point *.myserver.mydomain.com to that IP.

Sorry if I've misunderstood your question.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm not that worried as there are alternatives like Netbird. The underlying tech really isn't hard to replicate since Wireguard is pretty standard.

I think it would be cool if Tailscale made it into the enterprise arena.

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[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

pre-emptive pikachu face strike

[-] lefixxx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah and steam is closed source DRM platform. Great software sometimes is worth the trade off.

[-] Uncut_Lemon@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Steam is a private company, not publicly traded and has no VC funding.

VC funding and potential IPO normally means enshittification is inevitable, as they will eventually need to make insane profits by turning the screws on its users, as their business model wasn't self sustaining.

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[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 11 points 1 week ago

I think a lot of companies view their free plan as recruiting/advertising


if you use TailScale personally and have a great experience then you'll bring in business by advocating for it at work.

Of course it could go either way, and I don't rely on TailScale (it's my "backup" VPN to my home network)... we'll see, I guess.

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[-] Mordikan@kbin.earth 11 points 1 week ago

Headscale is great if you like networking fun, but that aside I'm not understanding why VC funding is such a black mark to the poster. Tailscale doesn't generate meaningful revenue streams as its early-stage, so it has to secure funding to continue operations until they achieve high enough revenue to go public. That's pretty standard in a business life-cycle, though. It seems like the main complaint is that Tailscale is a business. And what about the Linux Foundation? They are funded through private equity. Should you consider switching away because of that?

[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The problem, though, is that VC-funded projects bite off way more than they can chew from the start and have to enshittify to keep shareholders happy at that level.

Growth for the sake of growth is a fundamentally broken concept. Tailscale provides a free service that many use. They already offer a paid support tier for companies, like other certain FOSS projects do, so why not call it good there? Grow based on actual customer needs, instead of shareholder bullshit "needs" (line must go up 🙄).

[-] tequinhu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Yup, I don't know if that is OP's intention, but I would agree myself with the complaint that "Tailscale is a business"

The way I see it, if it's a business it must generate revenue (either now or down the road), and that is enough to have me worried. I do have a Tailscale registration, and the way they approach email communication is already a yellow flag to me (too many ad emails)

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[-] Feyd@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago

Not that it is a business but is a specific kind of business. VC funded startups eyeing an IPO more often than not start doing things users are not happy with. Maybe tailscale won't, but might as well be aware what kind of company they are acknowledge there is a decent chance of rugpulls

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

It seems like the main complaint is that Tailscale is a business. And what about the Linux Foundation?

The Linux Foundation is not a business.

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[-] chameleon@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago

They also had a major ass security issue that a security company should not be able to get away with the other day: assuming everyone with access to an email domain trusts each other unless it's a known-to-them freemail address. And it was by design "to reduce friction".

I don't think a security company where an intentional decision like that can pass through design, development and review can make security products that are fit for purpose. This extends to their published client tooling as used by Headscale, and to some extent the Headscale maintainer hours contributed by Tailscale (which are significant and probably also the first thing to go if the company falls down the usual IPO enshittification).

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[-] gravitywell@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Just use normal wireguard, why do you need tails or heads at all?

[-] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago

Tailscale offers way more then just wireguard. ACLs, NAT traversal etc. etc.

While some use cases can be replaced with traditional wireguard, others not.

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[-] TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Accessing your home network that is kept inside a NAT by your ISP, without you having to acquire an online server somewhere.

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