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[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 44 points 2 years ago

Great, another Hexbear brigading thread. Hexbear needs to be defederated, it's a bunch of fake communists spreading authoritarian propaganda.

[-] reddwarf@feddit.nl 33 points 2 years ago

Agreed. Hexbear and lemmygrad idiots are pretending to be all for peace and yet support the war mongers in russia.

These instances are a magnet for dishonesty and propaganda. Plus they have a 4chan attitude towards discussions, i.e. they keep shifting goalposts if you press them and throw absurd statements at you while doing so. There is nothing redeeming of those places.

[-] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago

They didn't even read the article either clearly lol

One Baltic official, requesting anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic, told The Hill that Baltic states are concerned that pushing Ukraine into negotiations will have dangerous ripple effects throughout the region.

This is the "fears of peace talks"

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

cry ab it, oh wait you already are

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

The Hill is propaganda? Do you even hear yourself?

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

I didn't say that and I'm pretty sure you know that's not what I meant.

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[-] RaineV1@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago

Russia has done horrible things to the Ukrainian people for a good century now. I hope the Ukraine doesn't get pressured into giving its land and people over to Putin. Any deal needs to give Ukraine all its territory back, and for Russia to keep its military off their border.

[-] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

What has Ukraine allowed to have happen to it's ethnic Russian population comprising a significant portion of the east of Ukraine done during it's time? You speak like a US state department underling. Whose office are you in exactly?

[-] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago

Are you making fun of someone for parroting US talking points, while yourself parroting Kremlin talking points?

[-] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

Anything except being for using Ukraine to fight a US-Russia proxy war is a Kremlin talking point to state dept plants like yourself.

[-] Apollo@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

So everyone who doesn't agree with your (completely Russian aligned btw) views works for the US state dept? Are you in high school or something?

[-] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

Coal mine. It's high school for Russians.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago

Are you even aware of who invaded Ukraine and started the war?

[-] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

NatO DiD iT

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[-] RaineV1@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty left leaning, and I'm against any fascist state trying to turn its neighbors into vassal states for its interest. And yes, that means being against a lot of what the US does as well.

[-] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

What has ~~Ukraine~~ Czechoslovakia allowed to have happen [sic] to it's [sic] ethnic ~~Russian~~ German population comprising a decent portion of the ~~east of Ukraine~~ [sic] West of Czechoslovakia done during it's [sic] time?

The settlement of the Czechoslovakian problem, which has now been achieved is, in my view, only the prelude to a larger settlement in which all Europe may find peace.

  • Neville Chamberlain, British Prime Minister, September 30th, 1938.

More context:

The Munich Agreement[a] was an agreement concluded at Munich on 30 September 1938, by Nazi Germany, the United Kingdom, the French Republic, and Fascist Italy. The agreement provided for the German annexation of part of Czechoslovakia called the Sudetenland, where more than three million people, mainly ethnic Germans, lived.

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[-] HomebrewHedonist@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago

I don't believe this for one second. I haven't heard anything from the Ukraine administration that would suggest in any way that they are interested in peace talks. In fact, their recent choice of putting a Crimean Tatar as the Minister of Defence suggests that they are serious about taking Crimea back from Russia. I hear nothing but absolute resolve by both the Weat and Ukraine to keep fighting until a Ukraine victory.

[-] CollisionResistance@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

I hear nothing but absolute resolve by both the Weat and Ukraine to keep fighting until ~~a Ukraine victory.~~

Until the last Ukrainian. That's what I've heard too.

[-] anteaters@feddit.de 18 points 2 years ago

I know you people don't consider Ukrainians actual humans with agency but they fight because they are forced to do so by Russians. And if they stopped fighting they would be eradicated by Russians. Whether the West wants them to resist Russia or not has no weight in that.

[-] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've seen videos and articles that suggest that many Ukrainians fight because they are forced to do so by other Ukrainians. And what do you mean eradicated? Do you know of some secret extermination camp nobody else knows about?

[-] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

Show proof of your bald-faced lie propagandist

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[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago

They're fighting because the last time they didn't fight russia they had the holodomor.

They haven't forgotten.

[-] Draghetta@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah have you heard about the weapon supply talks with North Korea?

Kim jong is completely resolute to fight the west, to the last Russian 😢

[-] Wage_slave@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Worst fucking title.

Fear of peace? That's pretty fucked up.

[-] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

The fake progressive right wing warmongers of lemmy sitting in their comfortable spaces from across the globe are going to be upset at the prospect of peace.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I wish all the westies cheering this war on would sign up for the foreign legion and go fight the orcs themselves.

[-] dandi8@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

No one is cheering for the war, no matter how many times you say it.

People may cheer for Ukrainian independence, or for their victories, but no one wants the war to continue. The war can end today, if only Russia decides to give back all the land they took by force, including Crimea.

You're building a strawman.

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

It would probably be a good thing if there can be an end to conscripts killing conscripts.

[-] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

It really depends. If Russia gets to keep territory it conquered, keep children it kidnapped, not pay for the destruction and murder it wrought, see sanctions lifted and proceed to immediately re-arm and continue on its path of indoctrinating children into becoming fascist warriors for the next round, I wouldn't call that peace.

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[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

Wow, that is some bad title. I would say concerns are justified if Russia can just keep annexing chunks from other countries. It started with Georgia and Ukraine and we can see the same events happening in Moldova currently.

Also if Russia were to share a proper border with Poland then that's pretty much guaranteed WW3, Poland hates Russia with a passion.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Fears of peace talks

Seems like mask off moment. Now i will read the comments if i suspect the resident liberal warmongers are still on their lines.

EDIT: The condensed copium cloud over liberal posts is even denser than imagined, with multiple layers.

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[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

This is great news

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