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submitted 2 years ago by eee@lemm.ee to c/workreform@lemmy.world

As part of his Labor Day message to workers in the United States, Sen. Bernie Sanders on Monday re-upped his call for the establishment of a 20% cut to the workweek with no loss in pay—an idea he said is "not radical" given the enormous productivity gains over recent decades that have resulted in massive profits for corporations but scraps for employees and the working class.

"It's time for a 32-hour workweek with no loss in pay," Sanders wrote in a Guardian op-ed as he cited a 480% increase in worker productivity since the 40-hour workweek was first established in 1940.

"It's time," he continued, "that working families were able to take advantage of the increased productivity that new technologies provide so that they can enjoy more leisure time, family time, educational and cultural opportunities—and less stress."

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[-] TheCrawlingKingSnake@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

While I love this idea and Bernie... There's no fucking way that'll happen.

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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

Even 32 hours a week with a proportional decrease in pay would be a huge improvement.

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[-] zabadoh@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

I can only see this happening hand in hand with Medicare For All and the decoupling of healthcare from full time employment.

Service jobs, which are currently 80 percent of US employment, require the same amount of hours with actual people present, e.g. you can't wait more tables, or answer more customer service calls, in 20% less time.

Removing the cost of healthcare from employers will allow them to allocate some of the savings towards employee salaries instead of healthcare insurance.

[-] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Allow them to allocate some of the savings towards employee salaries? Why would they do that when they could pocket the difference like they have been doing to all other cost savings and productivity boosts?

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[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Nobody is saying you should have to do 40 hours work in 32 hours - rather the company hires more people to cover those hours.

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[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago

32hr week is fine, but what does he mean by no loss in pay?

The mandated work week is something a central regulator controls, and the pay is not.

The drop in productivity because of working 32hrs instead of 40hrs will be much less than 20%, that's for sure. Maybe there'll be no drop at all. That doesn't always translate to no drop in pay.

If by 32hrs we mean 4 days, then it frees that day for other workers (if we imagine any job with a physical workplace). The pay is a result of the balance of interests. It will become less.

And personally I'd say 35hr week is a better idea - as in 5 days of 7hrs .

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago

And personally I'd say 35hr week is a better idea - as in 5 days of 7hrs .

No thanks! I'll stick with The Bern on this one.

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[-] Surp@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What about people that work in education? This is not possible to attain if kids go to school for the amount of time they currently do. Teachers, paras, custodians, IT people etc have no choice in this unless kids have less time in the classroom as well. So unless all those people get paid more to keep doing 40 while the rest gets more life back you'll be hard pressed to find people that want to work education..like anyone wants to work education these days anyways.

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