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[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 26 points 13 hours ago

The best part about it, is that the old-as-fuck Democrats hate it, which makes me love it all the more.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Hopefully we get to tell them to get in line or they're a Trump lover at some point.

After all the right-wing Neoliberals I've voted for over the years out of harm reduction to attempt to stop literal murderous fascists, it would be nice to see them eat some of that shit and vote for someone with ideals they loathe, win or lose.

[-] nthavoc@lemmy.today 50 points 14 hours ago

Water is wet. Wasn't this obvious when the DNC kingmakers, I mean, leadership decided to boot her out of a key committee position with a person that that could have passed for a republican and retired after getting the position? A poll was needed to see this?

[-] PaulBunyan@lemm.ee 32 points 14 hours ago

Water isn’t wet. What touches water is wet.

[-] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago

If you have an amount of water that can be divided, it touches other water. Therefore water is wet unless it is a single molecule

[-] valkyrieangela 24 points 14 hours ago

Water touches other water therefore water is wet. If you isolated a single molecule of H2O, that water would not be wet. However, it is nearly impossible to do this, hence it would be the exception and not the norm.

This argument isn't profound, it's just short sighted.

[-] nomy@lemmy.zip 11 points 14 hours ago

Wetness is a perception not an objective state. What "wet" even is, is up for debate.

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Water is wet, and pendants are annoying rather than clever.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago

And water doesn't touch water?

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[-] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 64 points 16 hours ago

That's funny, because the dnc does not share any of her ideology, and it's not even close

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 15 hours ago

Because the DNC leadership doesn't represent anyone except for the donors who own them.

[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago

Yeah she needs to spilt and be the face of an actual workers party, not the mask for the failed democrats.

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 14 hours ago

AOC and Bernie should break off, start a new party and call it the Social Democrats ... if for no other reason than that is what they espouse -- a socially-conscious mandate that the government is to be there for the people, not the other way around.

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[-] AreaKode@lemmy.world 275 points 20 hours ago

Weird. The party that claims to be "for the people" keeps putting centrists in charge. We're ready for someone who is actually for the people!

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 175 points 19 hours ago

Quickest way to mobilize the Democratic party is to threaten to put a progressive in charge

[-] Catoblepas 128 points 19 hours ago

They learned their lesson with Obama. The funny thing is he’s not even a fucking leftist, the party is just so full of dinosaurs they think a modern centrist is a leftist.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 52 points 18 hours ago

With Obama they just learned how to take a somewhat progressive candidates and bend them into a moderate. It's the same thing that happened with Kamala, although of course it's hard to say if either were ever really progressive or if they just used that for votes and didn't mind discarding it once they got pressured by the party and consultants.

[-] Redditsux@lemmy.world 41 points 17 hours ago

Kamala was never progressive.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 24 points 16 hours ago

Neither was Obama. Not long after he put a bow on the nomination, he voted for an expansive security bill. A lot of people were surprised, but not me.

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[-] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 66 points 20 hours ago

They’re definitely for the billionaire people.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 52 points 19 hours ago

DNC: I am here for the working people-- from billionaires, all the way to millionaires.

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 22 points 14 hours ago

She's already 35. Run her.

[-] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 24 points 14 hours ago

She should distance herself from that sinking ship. It's like continuing CPR on a victim who is already dead. Yeah you're trying but ultimately it's no use. Both main parties have been so tarnished that even being associated with the name is a smudge on the record.

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 12 hours ago

I agree with you, but I also feel that AOC is what the Democratic party is supposed to be. She is not the status quo.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

I'm confident AOC could raise an impressive amount of campaigning money as a single senator. But, impressive enough to account for an entire party, taking seats in thousands of positions across hundreds of local districts? Much as I'd like it, I don't see how it can happen.

I'd also like it if campaign money wasn't necessary, but 99% of America doesn't actively follow politics; it's needed to bring it to their doorstep. We've been covering the gap in things like Elon Musk's campaign funds via a lot of volunteer work, but that can only go so far.

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 58 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Make it clear to the Democratic Party establishment that progressive candidates will be on the ballot in every congressional district in Nov 2026, and they will be a spoiler candidate if they have to be. Either way, we are done with their shit. There will never be a better time.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 38 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

they will be a spoiler candidate if they have to be

I'd rather phrase it as "and they better not run a neolib spoiler candidate". It's not the progressives with popular support who are spoilers, but the neoliberals who are only propped up by corpo lobbies.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The way to prevent a new party from being a spoiler, is having the neoliberal DNC not running a candidate.

Since they clearly aren't interested in winning or stopping Trump, nothing would change.

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[-] hefejefe@lemm.ee 19 points 14 hours ago

Her rally with Bernie was pretty electrifying. I can see how her polices might be polarizing to some, but damn she can get the working class support. Just gott keep the momentum up and get people to actually vote.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

Polarizing like a magnet. We'd have a force for good instead of a lesser evil. That's a lot better at getting people to the polls.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 123 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

She's not the face of the Democratic Party

She's the face of a completely new and different party that has nothing to do with old Democrats.

To me, I've been viewing the US as being governed under a one party state for a while ... the Republicans and the Democrats form two halves of the same organization.

The US doesn't need a third party

They need to form a new second opposition party because the old one morphed into the monstrous thing we have today.

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[-] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 135 points 20 hours ago

she's got my vote

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 40 points 17 hours ago

Coming in a distant second was close ally Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). The pair recently went to various states with their Fighting Oligarchy tour. Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-TX) placed third in the survey with 8%.

Former Vice President Kamala Harris came in fourth with 6%. Following her was Pete Buttigieg with 5%, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) with 5%, Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) with 4%, and California Governor Gavin Newsom (D-CA) with 2%.

LOL, Chuck Schumer didn't even place. That gives me a little hope.

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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 46 points 17 hours ago

DNC: "Ewwww a progressive? We wouldn't be as rich with a progressive in charge!"

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago

Primaries should do it, then you just have to make sure the superdelegates don't ruin the result...

[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

Dude before trump was there a "face of x party"? That sounds like populist crap.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago

It kinda is. Dems are short on leaders though. The enemy of good is perfect

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 27 points 17 hours ago

"And it's not even close"

She's in a statistical tie with "nobody".

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[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 62 points 20 hours ago

“Currently, there is no consensus on the face of the Democrat Party, as a majority of voters either give the title to AOC (26%) or simply say there is none (26%),” Co/efficient concluded.

Never heard of Co/efficient, but “Democrat Party” is a bit of a red flag. From mediabiasfactcheck:

FiveThirtyEight, an expert on measuring and rating pollster performance, has evaluated 20 polls by co/efficient, earning 0.7 stars for accuracy, indicating they are Mixed Factual by MBFC’s criteria. They also conclude that their polling moderately favors the Right with a score of -2.7, which equates to a Right-Center polling bias. In general, co/efficient is considered moderately accurate and demonstrates a right-leaning bias in polling.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 47 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

MBFC gives The Guardian and Breitbart equivalent ratings for factuality, which is patently ridiculous

It's not a reliable gauge of anything, and it's harmful to trust its rankings

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