This isn't for filthy renters

Except that we have 240v?

Why do people overseas keep getting this wrong?

In the USA, by and large, homes are supplied with 240v with a neutral in the middle. So each phase is 120v. And we can access 240 by simply going across both phases. Literally every house I've ever been in my whole life has had 240v to the panel, including ones built before anyone on Lemmy was born.

The only places this isn't true was a couple of large apartment complex I lived in for few years where it was 360 to the complex 208 to the unit and 115v on each phase.

If you took out the neutral, we'd have 240 exactly like Europe. In theory (definitely not within code), on 90+% of houses in the USA, you could just wire the neutral to the opposite phase as live that the circuit is already on and get the full 240v to every outlet in the house (DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS). Each phase that we have only exists in the context of the neutral, and the neutral is strictly optional(though common) in the context of things like high draw devices.

As far as your aluminum comment... First, why aren't you saying "aluminium" if you're not (seemingly) American? But you realize that aluminum works perfectly fine for power delivery right? The EU uses aluminum in places too...

https://www.hydro.com/en/global/media/news/2025/hydro-invests-nok-1.65-billion-to-supply-europes-electric-infrastructure-with-low-carbon-aluminium

“Europe's energy transition is about one thing, more renewable power production, and the power produced must be transported over long distances. Aluminium is crucial for transporting electricity to where it is needed. By expanding the capacity to deliver low-carbon aluminium from Norway to the EU, we help ensure that the infrastructure, the very backbone of the future energy system, supports both Europe's security and climate policy goals," says Kallevik.

Edit: LMAO downvoted for actual facts. Here you go mr aussie.zone user that also clearly doesn't understand the USA electrical system, https://youtu.be/jMmUoZh3Hq4

American electrical systems are split phase 240V. If you want 240V, you just connect between both halves of the phase.

America has a lot of stupid, but the majority our electrical systems are very much NOT one of them.

Neither 110VAC or 240VAC is inherently more dangerous as long as the system is paired with the right gauge of wire. As for personal safety, both are more than capable of killing you regardless of amperage. 240VAC may even be a little more capable because it can push more current through the resistance of your body.

I’ll admit, American plugs/outlets leave a lot to be desired, but it’s not any more dangerous because of the higher current.

It's gotten significantly worse in basically every regard here in Sweden with regards to immigration, unfortunately.

Huh, the wiring just supports power spontaneously coming from an exit point rather than an entry? Is that commonplace?

Either way, that's fascinating! Thanks for taking the time to enlighten me!

That way they pay off rather quickly and result in a lower electricity bill when you look at a span of 10-15 Years.

In the US, a lot of problems have arisen around residential solar installation companies providing loans using questionable, if not outright fraudulent sales tactics based around misrepresenting returns.

https://time.com/6565415/rooftop-solar-industry-collapse/

The Rooftop Solar Industry Could Be on the Verge of Collapse

A decade ago, someone knocking on your door to sell you solar panels would have been selling you solar panels. Now, they are probably selling you a financial product—likely a lease or a loan.

Mary Ann Jones, 83, didn’t realize this had happened to her until she received a call last year from GoodLeap, a financial technology company, saying she owed $52,564.28 for a solar panel loan that expires when she’s 106, and costs more than she originally paid for her house.

In 2022, she says, a door-to-door salesman from the company Solgen Construction showed up at her house on the outskirts of Fresno, Calif., pushing what he claimed was a government program affiliated with her utility to get her free solar panels. At one point, he had her touch his tablet device, she says, but he never said she was signing a contract with Solgen or a loan document with GoodLeap. Unbeknownst to Jones, the salesman used "yoursolarguyujosh@gmail.com" as her purported email address—that of course, was not her email address. She’s on a fixed income of $960 a month, and cannot afford the loan she says she was tricked into signing up for; she’s now fighting both Solgen and Goodleap in court.

Her case is not uncommon. Solar customers across the country say that salespeople obscure the specific terms of the financial agreements and cloud the value of the products they peddle. Related court cases are starting to pile up. “I have been practicing consumer law for over a decade, and I’ve never seen anything like what we are seeing in the solar industry right now,” says Kristin Kemnitzer, who represents Jones and says her firm gets “multiple” calls every week from potential clients with similar stories.

Companies running solar farms, on the other hand, have bean-counters in place who are in a legitimate position to run the numbers, and those companies take on the risk themselves. With residential solar, it's not companies saying "hey, we'll put our capital on the line, and just want somewhere to put a panel", it's "here's a graph and some numbers, and there's a great investment opportunity for you with your capital...just sign on the line here!" Needless to say, this opens the door to a lot of potential unpleasantness.

EDIT: If a company sends a guy to your doorstep to tell you how they have a fantastic investment opportunity for you and your money which will make you a great return, a good response is to ask them why they don't want to make the investment themselves. Is it generosity on their part, letting you enjoy the benefit of the investment?

If a solar panel installer wants to put panels on a roof I own, that's fine with me. All they have to do is pay me for the space on my roof and cover the cost of the hardware and its installation. In return, I will let them have the entire value of the generation done, rather than taking it myself. If this is a legitimate investment with a valid return for the party putting money down, then they should be happy to do that.

One notices that there are no residential solar installer companies who are engaging in that sort of arrangement. Cell tower companies do that with cell infrastructure, but not residential solar installers. Hmmm.