Thurott's article on this implies that "big customers like DDG will be unaffected". Though he also says information is scarce.
Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit. Any other privacy-focused search engines out there that don't rely on this?
Kagi
American company though. Not supporting that
Yeah I'm far too used to getting my search for free to pay for it. I'll fuckin' use chatgpt before I pay a subscription fee for that shit, even if it is a substantially better option.
Answers still Kagi. You get use of the basic tiers for all the big ai services.
You ever wanted to blacklist Quora from search results? You can do that too.
Not unless you have some way to get me a free lifetime membership, cause I've already made it pretty clear I'm not paying for it, and it wouldn't even let me use it without making an account when I checked it out.
That's what I said before I used it, you can try it free for 30 days
I looked at it briefly, the only free option I saw was 100 free searches, which will not last your average user anywhere near 30 days. Shit that might not last me 3 days depending on what I'm doing.
I think you overestimate the average user
3 searches a day? Most people probably clear that just satisfying idle curiosity while sitting on the damned toilet.
You think Microsoft gives you privacy?
They make billions on targeted ad revenue.
No, I use duckduckgo which is powered by Bing's API. Hence why I said other privacy-focused search engine.
Mullvad Leta is at least google minus the tracking.
Brave Search has its own index
Is that something built into the browser? i dropped Brave when I heard Google was forcing the adblock-gimping shit in Manifest V3 into Chomium. Also I was never entirely keen on their crypto-hawking bullshit.
Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit.
I can tell you with confidence that I simply just won't.
What's the alternative? I guess you can use chatgpt or whatever as a sort of search engine? shrug
people who use LLMs as search engine make me go 😨
my colleagues are doing it too, and I just want to yell at them that LLMs have no idea about reality, they will confidently tell you to eat glue
I admit I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard it's a thing, apparently? shrug But I've noticed in my other uses that they're a lot better about citing sources for their claims now, so I guess you could just go 'Hey what's the capital of Vermont?', ignore its answer, then click on the source link below it, and voila: search engine?
My point was more: is this just the way things are going to go, we're going to get funneled into using AI for everything whether we want to or not?
If you tell the o3 reasoning model to just search the web and give you the top results instead of answering your query it can actually be really useful for obscure queries. I was able to find specific spec sheets for my model of monitor when a google search would only produce the specs for basically any other model the manufacturer made. Even with the model number in quotes
At the end of the day, it’s still an agent searching the web like a person, and its results are only good if search is decent.
searx, because it queries multiple engines that are accessible, and perhaps google frontends (whoogle, libre y, and that new mullvad thing).
but for the past years I was exclusively using duckduckgo and it would be very said if it would go away :( I started recommending it to others too
Yeah I've been using duckduckgo for a few years now and loving it, I really hope it doesn't go away. Still waiting to hear from those guys about how this affects them.
https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/updates?id=492574
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/bing/apis/pricing
So all tiers are getting discontinued.. Unless there is an unlisted custom tier? It's hard to imagine duckducgo only processing 250 requests per second. But then maybe that is enough and didn't they make their own index anyways? Maybe that was to ease the load
Oh and they suggest using ai instead
DuckDuckGo, Startpage, Qwant, Ecosia... the last two have been working together to make their own index, hopefully it's going to be usable by then.
I hope so, I don't trust MAGA owned Brave.
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