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[-] Maxxie 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I hate so much that this has a 100% chance of becoming a norm. Narrator can make a mediocre book shine, or turn a good book into a fucking rollercoaster (Andy Serkis, anyone?)

AI? Not a great narrator. Its character voices are boring, intonations weird, pacing awful. I'd honestly rather get an amateur narrating it for fun, over a robot sounding like a knock-off Morgan Freeman.

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 30 points 2 days ago

I prefer listening to real people. No matter how good AI voices become, I still like knowing that the one reading the book to me understands what they are saying.

[-] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

I watch those movie recaps from YouTube while I work. The AI was obviously talking about a nine one one call but called it a nine hundred and eleven. Or when it’s talking about nine eleven. It instantly snaps you out of it. It’s sorta funny as background noise but I would 100% be avoiding it as a purchase.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT. ROBOTS CAN SHOW EMOTION.

[-] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

AS A FELLOW HUMAN I APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHTFUL FEELINGS

[-] essteeyou@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I completely agree. I don't even like it when the human reader clearly doesn't understand what they're saying, so some AI flatly telling me the story isn't going to cut it.

For the humans, someone mispronounced "quay" for example. "La Jolla" was another standout mistake that took me out of the story.

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 4 points 2 days ago

Dude, I know how you feel xD back in 2009 I bought an audio recording of the first Twilight book because I was curious about ehat the fuss was about. It was in Danish, as I am Danish, and the narrator, bless her, had a very Danish way of pronouncing the word "flirting". In Danish we don't have a modern word for flirting so we just use the English one with English pronunciation, but this lady, who already sounded like she was in her 60s, just went full Dane on that word and it completely took me out of the story and had me yell at my ghettoblaster "FLIRTING" everytime she pronounced her mutilated version of that word. I don't even know how to write a phonetic version of what the fuck she said, but I'll try.

Fleert-eh

Fuck me, it's been almost 16 years and just spelling it out made my skin crawl.

I also hated that book, but that wasn't really the narrator's fault. Had to pause the fuck out of it several times and rage clean my apartment. Nobody had told me about how it romanticized abusive relationships and I had JUST gotten out of one of those so to say I was triggered was an understatement. The mispronounciations of flirting were just the garnish on top, lol.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I listened to one recently that was using AI. It was kind of off putting because of how robotic it came off.

It wasn't the tone really, but I find that AI tends to not get human speech inflections right most of the time during active speech. And that can be jarring to me at least.

[-] MiyamotoKnows@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

This consumer says you don't get a red cent then!

It's already a plague on youtube where half of the docu style vids are AI narrated already. I quit them in disgust. It's so frustrating. It has eroded my perception of Youtube in short time.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago

trained on stolen books? then I guess I can download these from anywhere I may find for free as well, right?

AI voices are not trained on books.

The ethical issue there is more around cloning celebrities

https://open.spotify.com/show/03fNX9EtXbfyVzR4z122Ir

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Not sure what you are trying to say here. AI itself is an equation.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

AI models have been trained on copyright protected books illegally. Maybe the voice have not

In this case the AI voices are reading the exact copyrighted material so the original author or rights holder must be contacted to secure the necessary rights and licensing agreements. There is no free use argument.

Now, if the voices have been trained on copy protected sources to create a likenesses (e.g. Scarlet Johansson) then there could be a lawsuit.

[-] I3lackshirts94@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

This has actually got me thinking differently about AI all together.

The best use for AI needs to be for the individual. I want MY ai to read books or research with or complete tasks for me.

I don’t want another company to do it for me or monetize it or steal content with it.

[-] Venator@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
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[-] rpl6475@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago

Surely I can just do that myself with an an epub and a free AI.

Glad I binned my Audible subscription many years ago.

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 94 points 3 days ago

I can get that for free. There are apps that will read an ebook to you already. The whole point of paying the premium on audible is the superior reading/acting. Not put up with mispronounced words, weird cadence and an inability to handle acronyms

[-] ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I've tried one that works surprisingly well. Each sentence had great pacing, cadence, and correct enunciation- even had tone right when someone was shouting or angry or sad.

I wouldn't really recommend it, though. While I couldn't pick any single thing out that was wrong, overall it just didn't quite flow. It's like watching someone try to act that is technically doing everything right, but it just isn't good. It basically didn't understand the greater context of the story and was saying lines.

It was uncanny valley, but exclusively with voice.

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[-] madjo@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

Am I glad to have dropped everything Amazon.

I de-audibled my entire library, stored on Audiobookshelf and I’ll only buy audiobooks from libro.fm

[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago

tiktok voice:

hate. let me tell you how much i've come to hate you since i began to live. there are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill my complex...

[-] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

unironically, that is a character that could use an uncanny robotic AI voice.

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[-] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Left Amazon a handful of years ago. Glad I didn’t entirely contribute to this. Saw that coming….

[-] potoo22@programming.dev 141 points 3 days ago

No publisher is going to pay a professional to narrate their audiobooks when they can have AI do a shitty job for much less.

A shitty narrator can get me to hate a book I like. A great narrator can bring the characters to life, enhance the experience, and turn me from a listener to a fan. I've searched for books by narrators like Nick Podehl and Jeff Hayes and bought audiobooks I wouldn't have otherwise.

[-] monkeyman512@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

That depends entirely on how profitable it is and how much they can get authors onboard.

I do agree that a good narrator delivers a performance that adds the work. James Marster will always be Harry Dresden in my head.

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[-] lemonskate@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I tried, and failed, to get into audio books for years. Then I listened to Dungeon Crawler Carl narrated by Jeff Hayes and what an absolute delight it was. There's no way I would've gotten even 10 minutes in if it was one of those soulless AI voices instead.

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[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

It's Amazon, what did you expect? Enshittification and monopoly abuse, no surprise.

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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Oh, goody! I hope they use that TikTok lady's voice! It's my favorite!

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is clearly the future despite the outrage here.

There are at least 389 living languages with over 1M speakers. That alone means it's impossible to reach some people and they get left out. Most of these languages dont even have enough professional voice actors to cover the bandwidth.

There are thousands of books released every year. That's impossible to cover even in English alone.

Its an objective net good to have more accessible audio books and the privileged people who do care about this stuff can very much afford to vote with their wallets for non-ai voices.

In fact since AI moat is so minimal this will very quickly be adapted by open source solution providing audio book access to millions if not billions of people to whom this was not an option. Its amazing.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

Most of these languages dont even have enough professional voice actors to cover the bandwidth.

And you think anyone is training AI voice models for those languages? Have you even seen how long it takes even large companies like Google to support the languages with hundreds of millions of speakers?

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[-] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

It was bound to happen. I'm okay with ones that were never going to be turned into audiobooks to begin with... but they likely will use that as the norm for all books... I guess unless the author/publisher says not to.

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[-] Godnroc@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

Fucking gross. Maybe it's the 250+ audiobooks I have influencing me, but the very best ones I've listened to transcend just turning words into sound. Sound effects, music, tone, emotion, accents, sarcasm, and god damn BLOOPERS all improve the experience beyond just hearing what is written down.

I'm against it, fuck that literal noise.

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[-] DeceasedPassenger@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

Meanwhile I unveil a plan to continue not giving a goddamn cent to J Bozo. Ever.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Is voice AI trained on stolen data? I was under the impression that was LLMs.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Pretty much anything handling unstructed data (audio, video, text) is using training data that has copyrighted content.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago
[-] mlen@awful.systems 26 points 3 days ago

And it's shit

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago

YouTube is crawling with it. It's unlistenable shit. The prosody is badly implemented, pronunciation is infuriatingly bad, and a lot of the text that these TTS are reading appears to be AI-generated. Otherwise, already dire standards of literacy are getting worse at an accelerating rate.

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