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I remember a time when visiting a website that opens a javacript dialog box asking for your name so the message "hi " could be displayed was baulked at.

Why does signal want a phone number to register? Is there a better alternative?

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[-] solrize@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Is there a quick explanation of what signal actually does? I don't understand the need for a phone number either. Jami doesn't ask for a phone number. It has other deficiencies that make me not want to use it, but those are technical rather than policy, more or less. Similarly, irc (I'm luddite enough to still be using it) doesn't ask for a phone number either. So this is all suspicious. There are a bunch of other things like this too (Element, Matrix, etc.) that I haven't looked into and tbh I don't understand why they exist.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

Signal is a messenger service. You can expire messages after a certain amount of time.

They ask for a phone number to limit bots. I used my Google voice number and it worked fine. I like Telegram which banned me after a day of use for using Google Voice.

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[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

It's not suspicious. It's been talked about for years. People know exactly what the phone number is used for. Easy discoverability, quick and seamless onboarding of new users by providing a way to bootstrap their social graph, and it being very similar to the process of the other biggest player that people just understand. And spam prevention. The phones are not leaked or used for anything else. The other alternatives exist and you are welcome to onboard the people you want onto them if you think it's simpler.

The code is open, if you don't trust other people and can't read the code to understand then hire someone you trust to validate the claims and assure you. But spreading FUD and saying it's suspicious is not productive to anyone.

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[-] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Do not trust signal. Mosk advertised it on twitter.

Edit: I only got 11 downvotes yet, so i have to add:

Signal is not allowed in Russia, guess why. Telegram is. yes yes try harder. THINK mf

WhatsApp is obviously not recommended.

I’m not saying don’t use. I’m saying do not trust.

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[-] 0xtero@beehaw.org 9 points 3 days ago
[-] 0101100101@programming.dev 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

you will still need a phone number to sign up for Signal

[-] M154nthr0p3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I think you can use a pay phone to sign up.

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They implemented an alt method IIRC but you must go out of your way to search and find it. I just recall seeing a bunch of post headlines about using email or something like that a year or so back.

They send an initial SMS message that is a main expense and funded by some rich person and donations. I think that has some significance to encryption or something but I'm not sure of the details. I could be wrong on that one, it has been years since I read the details.

[-] rirus@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Your wrong, except the rich person part. That rich guy is the WhatsApp founder, who got the money by selling their users to Facebook.

[-] RockLobstore@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Tried session? Anyone have comments on it? Nice to be able to skip the phone and easily use vpn, though I haven’t spent enough time on that.

[-] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 days ago

Session is a Signal fork and they removed forward secrecy which makes them vulnerable to Key Compromise Impersonation attacks.

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