I actually learned how to use vi like 30 years ago and I had all the commands memorized. Then, nano came along. All the commands are at the bottom of the screen to remind you. It was just too tempting to pass up. However, I can't help but suspect that somewhere out there I might have left a vi session open because maybe I mistyped. I might have accidentally typed ;q! instead of :q! or something.
I'm feeling old now... I've been using vi for 35y now and was happy when I got vi.exe on a dos box, as I hated edit. I still don't like 'simple' editors like nano/joe.
I used kill to get out of emacs when trying it agter 7y of vi usage, so I get the need to get mideval on editors users aren't used off. ;)
vi has always been my bane because I'm a sloppy typist. I can't count the number of files i had to fix because they ended with :q i like nano because the commands are ctrl + whatever. i don't make a mess.
All the commands are at the bottom of the screen to remind you. It was just too tempting to pass up.
But you already had the Vi commands memorized. Did you forget them in the meantime?
You can :q! any time you want, but you can never leave.
Insert Mode tho
It's really easy, just unplug your computer.
-
Esc
× 2CTRL-[
× 2CTRL-\
CTRL-N
× 2
-
:q
:qa
:wq
:wq!
:wqa
:x
ZZ
:q!
ZQ
:q!
:cq
Nano is pretty good if you're in a terminal. Used to use vim for ssh related stuff but since nano added syntax highlights I didn't go back.
Nano's only appeal is that it's beginner-friendly, but you already know Vim, so why switch?
Because Nano just works. Vim is insane affront to good design and standards.
Vim is crap. If a fucking text editor is hard to master, it's just a bad text editor.
That's a paddlin'
I know how to get out. But I still like nano a lot more.
WTF. Why? I could maybe see someone preferring emacs over vim, but not nano. Maybe there are nano features I don't know about, but it just seems like Windows Notepad to me.
I normally just use VS Code with a VIM extension. Unless I'm ssh-ing into something, then I use vim.
Well, you kind of got it but also didn't I guess. If I want to quickly edit a none critial config file or similar a terminal version of Notepad is perfectly fine and for more complex stuff I prefer a GUI anyway.
I edit in Micro. Which is Nano with Lua plugins. Come at me.
You exit vim by unplugging the pc.
Now do ed
...
Pssh, come on, it's just :q or :q! - couldn't be simpler or more intuitive!
My main problem with vim is that they use hjkl instead of jkl; , it doesn't make sense to me why they'd do that.
And my second problem is that I use my own custom keyboard layout instead of qwerty, so I'd have to remap all the keys. Why spend hours learning and then rebinding all the keys when I can instead play some Dota? /s
My main problem with vim is that they use hjkl instead of jkl; , it doesn't make sense to me why they'd do that.
With qwerty you can be sure of layout of the letters and numbers across languages.
Closing nano is more complicated imo
No it isn't, it respect's ctrl+c, SIGINT and gives useful feedback for new users. Many shortcuts are immediately shown on screen.
If you open vim the first thing you will see it's a text describing how to close it. Not saying other things are easier for a new user but closing is pretty simple. EDIT: if press ctrl - c vim will show you what you should press instead
And the whole time you have nano open it shows you all the shortcuts how to save and close at the bottom, so no, closing nano is not harder.
Unless you don't know that ^ means Ctrl 🥲
Then you press ctrl+g for help and it tells you:
Shortcuts are written as follows: Control-key sequences are notated with a '^' and can be entered either by using the Ctrl key or pressing the Esc key twice.
:D
Actually TIL about pressing esc twice.
Why would you press CTRL+G if you didn't know that ^ was CTRL?
Look at the screenshot I posted, it actually specifies "ctrl + g" for help.
I'd argue closing vim is still easier. You just have to hold down the power button long enough.
stop making sense its annoying
I had to look up the upside down V meant Ctrl, which makes sense to me now that I know, but I had to Google that.
:q does the trick
I took the vim pill a few years ago and spent tons of time learning its shortcuts, trying out plugins, and forming strong opinions about my relationship with my text editor. It's a great tool, but I personally lost the plot somewhere down the line. I'm not sure that passion actually served me.
!killall vim
ctrl+z seems to work
Remember to actually kill the process though, since that will only background/suspend it in most cases.
(Be sure to save the file though first, Vim creates a "swap" / recovery file but its best to not rely on that, use fg
to re-open, then press escape and type :wq
)
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