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The West was moving to the right — and then Donald Trump got elected again

Something is happening among America's allies, and it's a tremendous relief. For some years now, we've seen the MAGA-infused global right gaining a foothold amongst western democracies, largely driven by the same demagogic, nationalist, pseudo-populism that has fueled Donald Trump's dominance on the American right.

Some countries like Hungary have served as a sort of experiment for the kind of post-democratic autocracies dreamt of by the modern right wing in which government co-opts, intimidates and de-legitimizes the political opposition to create an authoritarianism that dominates the culture and the politics without a lot of overt violence.

But the rise of the far right among the Western allies seems to be stalling out.

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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago

As long as neoliberals are the only alternative, fascism will always come back.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

You mean modern liberals? Neoliberalism is about as far-right as fascism.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

Please explain how neoliberalism is as far-right as fascism.

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

No one is saying neoliberalism is as far right as fascism. However fascism has a cloak of populism that it can hide under that neoliberalism can never do because they are tied to corporate interests in varying degrees. As such, a lot of working class people gravitate towards fascists who pay lip service to working class struggles.

At the end of the day, both neoliberals and fascists benefit from an undereducated and overworked population. That is why we need true alternatives that support the working class

At the end of the day, both neoliberals and fascists benefit from an undereducated and overworked population. That is why we need true alternatives that support the working class

Pretty much what I was referring to. I think the difference is a matter of motivation. Fascists want power and complete control, neoliberals don't, but either one would applaude streets paved with dead bodies if it lowered costs by 10%.

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[-] ButteryNickel@lemmy.wtf 59 points 1 day ago

Better late than never I suppose. Congrats everyone else.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

I'll take it. Really. It sucks for us. But if this is what it takes to get everyone else to kick this bullshit ass ideology and actually get on with progress over stagnation let's fucking go.

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Agree. Let's take the hit and move towards getting off this fucking planet.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 day ago

Take the hit and learn the lessons. And fix this planet.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

It's not Trumpism, it's fascism.

[-] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

😂

Those things are, in fact, equivalent.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Squares are to rectangles as Trumpism is to fascism.

[-] Binky@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 day ago

One can hope, but each time I get optimistic, some crazy bullshit goes down.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Salon, huffpo, msnbc ffs. These are the hopium sites favored by the beaten left, because actual corporate journalism collapsed under it’s own ignorance and greed a long time ago.

The NYT will trot out a hopium piece every once in awhile like rainbow-flagging-the-logo for Pride month, but it’s all clickbait.

Who are you going to vote for in the midterms? The left needs to get its shit together. Propaganda, corruption, and blatant lies are kicking our ass.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

The problem is that we don't have a left party; the closest are the Democrats and they're Republicans in all but name.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

I don't buy that. I think there are a number of old corporate Dems who need to get the boot. But that's all up to the Democratic voters to do.

It's not that complicated in principle, it's just that complicated once one is out in the real world.

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[-] Binky@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago

I sure hope this is right…

[-] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

But the rise of the far right among the Western allies seems to be stalling out.

Sorry, wut??

Can't imagine what in the screaming goat fuck would lead you to this conclusion other than pure blind idiocy...

🤷‍♂️ 🤡 🖕

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago
[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Can we sequester him? In the dirt, please?

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

You have to wonder what infects the minds of people such that they fall for this in other countries.

I have a good idea what does it here.

[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

To put it simply, the prosperity of Europeans and their descendants was paid for through the bloodshed of colonial exploitation. This created an inherently inequal world order.

The world has become more equal post WW2 and the descendants of the greatest beneficiaries of that exploitation are now displeased that they don't hold the same advantages their ancestors did. That's why we have to go back. That's why we have to make _____ great again.

Most PoC can hear these dogwhistles (if you can even call them that) from a mile away.

[-] Gregg@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

But is it really?

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I can't assuredly say we have beat conservative populism yet, but we are at least bringing competence to government.

The issue we haven't solved is that many young people now are coming of age upon a platter of socially engineered falsehood.

[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

That might be the silver lining to all this

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