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dudes, I am linux pilled (lemmy.today)
submitted 1 week ago by Darbage@lemmy.today to c/linux@lemmy.ml
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I was a poor young man, I refused to pay $100 to put windows on a hard drive I had installed into a hand-me-down desktop.

I found linux and made it work, through thick and thin. As a lazy jackass i somehow got skyrim to work through wine via copied and pasted terminal commands. wintetricks and all, i found it wildly difficult. Playing was almost as thrilling as seeing it work.

I have only ever attempted to make a linux ISO bootable drive through windows that one time, more than ten years ago. My wife was given a laptop with windows 11 installed and I wanted to install firefox.

what, the actual fuck, is "S" mode?

ctrl-alt-t "install that shit"!

A computer should not come with a subscription baked in. That's trash. The issues i get through linux come from my failure to understand it and/or the walled gardens it hasn't found its way into yet. The issues I experienced this evening on windows were there by design.

Thank you to all of the homies that make the weird and sometimes uncomfortable linux/ open-source community work. You guys are the shit.

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[-] Trimatrix@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

In windows defense (no means sticking up for them now) It was a pretty unobtrusive OS in Windows 7 and arguably in Windows 8 (but don’t get me started with the UI/UX choices). Windows 10 was decent and for the first year or two felt good running it. But after that yikes….. Then windows 11 comes to the scene and I lost the plot. Looking forward to October though when people throw out their 7th Gen Processor rigs. I got no issues rocking an I7-6700K that is not AI ready

[-] Darbage@lemmy.today 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I model all of my UI choices off of old(er) school windows. I have a bar, the menu is left. I was a pirate before anything and I learned on windows. There was a point where it made sense that the world used it, I think that time has passed. I really am such a pleb that hardware issues only effect me if it doesn't work. In this I guess I am saying that the freedom to abuse and break my hardware is important. I don't want to sell my soul or be told "no". install the program, I know it was written for windows. I don't want a microsoft account.

Edit: my drunk ass had said older(er)

[-] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 5 points 1 week ago

I model all of my UI choices off of old(er) school windows

Same lol. The casual observer wouldn't be able to tell the difference between Windows XP and my Debian install, bar for the fact that I have a search bar in the start menu.

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 44 points 1 week ago

The issues I experienced this evening on windows were there by design.

That's exactly what has kept me loyal to Linux. When I do have an issue, at least no one designed the issue on purpose to abuse me.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I love your comparison of where issues come from on Linux vs Windows. That's so apt (heh). Even after 10 years of using Linux, I never really thought of it that way.

It's frustrating when any computer doesn't do what you want; but you're right, it's infuriating when the problems are engineered to manipulate you into parting with your money, attention, or privacy.

(( insert anti-capitalist rant here ))

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Any system that I own I want root on. If I can't get root, then I don't truly own it.

[-] Darbage@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago

preach it, the capture of people into software ecosystems is getting so out of hand. I was thinking about microsoft vs apple, and while they do the same shit at least it seems to work well lol

[-] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 21 points 1 week ago

Yo just for the record you made your life so much more difficult installing skyrim that way and not through steam\proton, even if you were pirating.

i have 15 years of experience and do infinite free linux troubleshooting on matrix if you want some help

[-] Darbage@lemmy.today 23 points 1 week ago

I am not sure proton was a thing yet and if it was I was certainly not aware haha nowadays I'm all tapped into that. also, even beyond steam, lutris and bottles have made it kind of a walk in the park. my goodness. I wickedly appreciate that offer and If I'm ever so stumped that i need a lifeline I may take you up on it. Lately my whole goal is to git gud and make it work myself. It's a journey and I'm getting way more confident in my ability to admin my own systems (and potentially anyone I can get to convert lol)

[-] KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Playing was almost as thrilling as seeing it work.

This is GOLD!

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Linux still sometimes brings me back to the C64 and Amiga days and and nights of fiddling and figuring things out. Learning experiences and fun times.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

Its amazing now a days. I still have a windows machine because im to lazy about moving over a small use case. I can't believe how much better my browsers which is like 90% of my usage and other programs run in linux and its hard to even pinpoint but some ways the programs react feel better but I can't put my finger on exactly what it is.

[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I also have a single Windows machine remaining but it’s specifically because I have tons of services and stuff on there and it’s fine. It’s Windows 7 Pro and does its job. No need to fix what ain’t broke. All my other systems I changed over to Linux many years ago.

Nowadays when I see someone have trouble in Windows I just shake my head and express sadness. What a shame you gotta be using that sewage.

[-] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

The issues i get through linux come from my failure to understand it

I’d argue that’s true of any user’s experience with any OS, including what you just experienced with Windows.

Getting out of S mode is actually very trivial, certainly moreso than many of the changes one might be expected to make in Linux. There’s a certain type of user that “S Mode” is intended for. You’re not that user, and Linux is likely to be a negative experience for that user.

[-] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Never heard of that mode, what is it?

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Imagine turning Windows into an even shittier version of itself, and you've got S mode.

Can't install shit unless it's from the MS Store. Can't use a browser unless it's Edge. Not sure what other stupid shit it enforces. It's supposed to harden the system, but I find that hard to believe.

[-] notoftenthat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

S is operationally analogous to using a Chromebook.

There are people who will never need more than that.

We are not these people...

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Nobody should be those people. Those people are constantly giving the industry a reason to water everything down and make things as overpriced and limited as possible.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

Ah, like a "stable" mode? Honestly it makes sense from a user support perspective. More locked down, more predictable, easier to secure. In the same way that you can't hack a brick, and similarly useful.

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

I was thinking a "shit" mode but "stable" does sound nicer lol.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Heh, I'm probably in the minority, but I like the idea of different windows "modes". 've long wanted msft to make versions of windows for different users rather than a one-size-fits-all product. I just wanted it because I'm a power user who wanted something more stripped down and configurable, not a boomer who wants something that won't act as a conduit between my ignorance and scammers.

But it's cool, they can do whatever they want with windows now, they've made it clear they don't want me as a user.

[-] Darbage@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

I hadn't either until last night. From what I gathered it disables the installation of any softwares that don't come from the microsoft store i.e. .EXE files for programs that were downloaded from the browser. Getting out of S mode is as easy as creating a microsoft account. I had no interest in that for a variety of reasons.

[-] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Limits app installations to those on the Microsoft Store and also disables Terminal / Powershell.

Makes for a super simple tamper-proof system that is similar to a Chromebook but a little more versatile. It’s a good solution for users who are all-in on the Microsoft ecosystem - think those who live their lives in Edge, Word, Excel. The restrictions keep them out of hot water.

Those restrictions are obviously annoying to those who want to install regular x86_64 apps from an .exe / .msi file or use Powershell / Terminal / CMD.

Switching out of S mode is very easy: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windows-4f56d9be-99ec-6983-119f-031bfb28a307

[-] thefool@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

"There's no charge to switch out of S mode."

How generous of you, Microsoft!

[-] AnalogFunk@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Goated

[-] Fijxu@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

Top level shitposting

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