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[-] ouch@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago

Cool. Now let me legally record my phone calls without rooting my phone.

[-] dhhyfddehhfyy4673@fedia.io 42 points 1 week ago

Built-in to GrapheneOS for a while now.

[-] seekpie@lemmy.seekpie.nohost.me 10 points 1 week ago

CalyxOS also has it (though they block it where it's illegal).

[-] ouch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Two problems:

  1. No automatic call recording.
  2. Banking apps don't work on GrapheneOS thanks to Play Integrity APIs, so you probably need to root to get them to work.

If you need to root anyway, might as well use BCR.

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[-] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

There is an app called CubeACR which does exactly that on unrooted devices.

[-] ouch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I very much doubt that, since Google removed the call recording APIs. But if someone can tell how it would work on recent Android, I would love being proven wrong.

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[-] mooncake@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

And one UI 6.0 and one UI 5.0. My Samsung phones have done this for as long as I can remember

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[-] AlexCory21@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

For users with a Samsung Flagship phone, if you have the "One UI 7" update, they just recently added this feature.

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[-] underline960@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A beta build of Android 16 contains an early version of Google’s new Android Desktop Mode that, in the future, could let users simply plug their smartphone into a monitor and use it like a laptop or desktop computer.

!savedyouaclick@lemmy.world

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 week ago

Now the question is if people will be stupid enough to replace all the freedoms their desktop OS still gives them with the vendor controlled shit show that is mobile OS.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago
[-] themurphy@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

My guess is that people who would use DEX is also people who are satisfied with ChromeOS. Which is just as closed down.

Hopefully, when Android does this, they will be under same gatekeeper restrictions in the EU as Windows.

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[-] TerHu@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

i‘m hyped for a graphene desktop mode. that wouldn’t be a replacement for my laptop/ desktop computers but still very much sick. and if i can run a terminal with neovim and tmux or ssh into other machines it would be a dope backup/ micro setup. probably not very useful, but fun i think

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[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

100% they will and want this. I’m a power user and even I see this as the future.

Have you worked in a non-tech field with people? Modern OSs and office apps are not intuitive to them. Hell, a lot have problems with just their phones as is.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I suppose you mean the same effect I have noticed with our younger apprentices who know very little about the way computers work anymore since they grew up with phones only, they don't even know what a file system is any more.

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[-] Trihilis@ani.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah.. I dont see this happening. Android has 99% shovelware crap. I dont see how any professional would be able to use Android instead of Windows, MacOS or Linux.

Android is garbage, and I'm saying this as an android user... The moment a serious Linux alternative is here for phones I'm gone (yes I'm aware Android is technically also "Linux").

Just a few examples: the file system is a mess, good luck trying to easily save on network drives. There is no decent office suite and again using the files system to save documents in Android is a shitshow. There are Adobe products but they're all watered down shitty versions of the desktop ones, the alternatives are even worse. Around every corner google tries to push it's shitty cloud subscriptions, the telemetry is insane even compared to windows.

No Android is definitely not the future chromebooks were a mess too. And knowing Google they'll just give up on anything they don't seem profitable enough so even if they tried on desktop they'll just pull the plug after 2 years.

If people complain about Linux being hard... give android a try as desktop OS it's probably 10x worse. At least Linux comes with a decent office suite and decent networking capabilities.

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[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago

I swear they've been writing the same article for a year.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

Much longer than that. But that's probably because Google keeps picking it up and then dropping it again.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

I used to think the idea of a phone that is also my desktop would be really cool. But then I got to thinking just how locked down iOS and to a lesser extent Android are compared to Linux/Windows/MacOS, and decided I wouldn't use my Pixel as a replacement for my desktop or laptop even if the feature was there.

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago

On a serious note, what can't you do with your Pixel? The only issues I've had is I can't access networking functions. Beyond that, not much limits in most things I do. And with Android 16 allowing for installing Linux apps (not just terminal ones, but full graphical ones like VS Code, Blender 3D, etc), there is little I can't see it not being able to do. (No Wireshark though, but that's networking, the only painful point for me).

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

TLDR: I don't like the philosophy behind how Android and iOS devices are created and managed by their OEMs nearly enough to give them near total control over what I can do today or in the future with my primary computing platforms.

Its not a specific thing I can't do that I want to do that stops me from liking it.

Its that it is a specific OS image bound to a specific hardware model that is very limited in what options or upgrades or changes are available to me.

With a Framework laptop (or most other generic models) or a generic ATX desktop tower I can replace whatever internal component if need be and then put whatever base OS on it, just because I want to do that.

With a Pixel, or Galaxy, or iPhone it runs the OS it came with and is blessed by the OEM on the hardware they compiled it to run on. Unless I am willing to accept large inconveniences in functionality and usability.

If I replace my desktop/laptop with a Pixel running Debian for desktop mode, now Google has vastly more control over what my desktop experience is going to be via their control of the hardware and host OS layer than they do today. If they decide they don't want something being done in that Debian container in the future for some reason, then they can stop me from doing it with little recourse for me as a user.

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[-] vermaterc@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago

do you think I am masochist or what, better give me gnu/linux on mobile ;)

[-] Yaky@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago
  • postmarketOS for older mainstream phones
  • Librem 5
  • PinePhone and PinePhone Pro
  • FuriLabs FLX1
  • Liberux Nexx (upcoming)
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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Cool. Samsung did this a decade ago though.

Everyone is abandoning Android with a passion thanks to Google's bullshit.

[-] lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But yeah. Fuck Google

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Ubuntu did this a decade ago too

[-] ITeeTechMonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The Motorola Atrix 4G had a Desktop Mode (Webtop was its name and it was Ubuntu based) in 2011 before Samsung. They even released a cradle dock, that you could connect to a tv or monitor, and a laptop dock for it and the source code on Sourceforge (my guess is to be GPL compliant).

I got that phone specifically for the desktop mode. It had a full blown Firefox browser installed and you could run your apps along side it.

I was blown away and thought, "This is the future for computers" but I was incredibly wrong. After the short honeymoon period i found it to be sluggish and clunky when using an android app. The hardware although phenomenal for a phone couldn't provide an optimal experience for a desktop.

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[-] vegetvs@kbin.earth 5 points 1 week ago

Everyone is abandoning Android

What do you mean?

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[-] nthavoc@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

Dex was kind of nifty if you had a monitor laying around. I'm guessing this is the non-Samsung version feature.

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[-] thfi@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

Microsoft tried the same idea about 10 years ago with Continuum, even including a hardware dongle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Continuum https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/device-experiences/continuum-phone

Canonical had something similar, too, back in the days with their Ubuntu Touch and named it Convergence: https://www.linux.com/news/first-ubuntu-touch-tablet-brings-convergence-last/

That's cool and everything, yet we have an itsy-bitsy tiny problem: iirc, there are like 3.5 vendors that have opted into dp alt mode support, and each one I know of kinda sucks. I suppose it might be possible to simply enable it in software by changing the devicetree on usb3 devices or something if the port the vendor decided to route is the one multiplexed with dp, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fairphones support it :) I actually tested this out earlier (the initial screen mirroring implementation that was added in android 15) and it worked well. USB hub functionality works too with mouse and keyboard being plugged into the screen.

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[-] dukatos@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

Ability to recognize non-ASCII characters in the dialer? Nope... Ability to skip auto connect to the Bluetooth device? Nope, never again... Record phone calls? No, fuck you, we don't like it in US so it is banned to the whole world. Here you are a feature nobody asks for and shut up...

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[-] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Didn’t canonical try this years ago?

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[-] kittenzrulz123 6 points 1 week ago

Hopefully this means I can have a GraphineOS laptop (whenever google makes a new Pixel Laptop)

[-] serenissi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

This paired with virtualization features (hopefully with working sommelier) potentially enable running desktop wayland apps on phone.

[-] bruhduh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

To run waydroid on it

[-] pelya@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

If you want deskktop version of Firefox or Chromium on your phone, you can get them using Termux. But yeah they will be slow.

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