I had the exact same experience when I first tried Linux. But now when I am evily forced into using Windows and HATE it any other way. Also I despise the windows terminal now (PowerShell & CMD).
Realistically the simplest way to think about it is a text based file manager that can run programs, you could literally ignore it and use it to just install and update, if GUI's your thing.
If you or someone you know wants a taste of that experience on Windows, try out winget or chocolatey.
As an administrator, powershell is an essential tool these days. There are tunables that Microsoft simply only exposes via powershell even in their cloud Microsoft 365 environments. Just last month I had to rely on Powershell to trim previous versions on SharePoint, and 2 weeks ago I had to use Powershell to adjust a parameter on Exchange.
But also being able to pop a Powershell session and quickly apply a registry fix or run a diagnostic command or even just install a piece of software without disrupting a user's work is absolutely brilliant (plus saves a call when I can just email back and say "I've pushed it remotely, reboot and it should be sorted now")
Every time I use Powershell it makes me love bash even more
Yeah Powershell has way more weird limitations than Bash but it's way better than using cmd.exe
Great news, you can install powershell as your linux shell!
Why though?
I actually had to do that due to something preventing me from upgrading to Powershell 7 on my workstation. Adapted my script for Linux and ran it in Powershell in Linux
As a sometimes Windows admin, I completely agree. Plus so many things that become simple one-liners instead of taking forever farting around in a GUI tool where a little misclick screws up everything and documentation requires 27 pages of giant screenshots.
i'd also recommend scoop. when i had windows before i switched, i preferred it to winget or chocolately.
Wait till you try fish or zsh loaded with all the fancy plugins lol
or zoxide and yazi
I'm on the other side of the coin, I really don't know how I'm supposed to learn to use the terminal. I can do sudo apt get to get some programs and updates, as well as mv and cp, but that's where it stops for me.
You need a purpose. For instance I needed to copy and edit config files for a bunch terminals my company has deployed last week. Instead of manually copying the template directory 80 times and editing the 2 lines that needed to be changed in the parameter file for each one I used powershell to extract the name and id for each terminal from the log files and create copy of the template directory for each one, then replace the terminal name and id in the parameter file of the new directory with the ones extracted from the logs. This would have taken me all day to do manually and it only took about 45 minutes to write up the script and run it. I did have some prior experience with doing this kind of thing but hadn't tied them all together lile that before so i learned some stuff.
Maybe you need to have some sort of objective before you get started, otherwise yeah, you don't have much to do in the console :) In my case I only use linux for work, so I'm ssh-ing away and running commands to compile this, apply that, show me the logs for this, grep that, etc.
Niw you are doomed and there is no going back. Welcome to the gang;)
if I could copy pasta with ctrl-c and ctrl-v in terminal, then 90% of my hatred of the command line would evaporate instantly.
middle mouse click is like magic, but CTRL-SHIFT-C/V usually works
I don't want to pasta with middle click. I want to scroll with middle click. I want to pasta with ctrl-v.
I don't want to pasta with middle click. I want to scroll with middle click. I want to pasta with ctrl-v.
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Lol jokes aside, like they said above just add a shift and you're good. Ctrl+shift+c and Ctrl+shift+v a'cut'a a'nna pasta jus'sa fine! Muah!
Well, yes. But also that only addresses half my comment. I suppose it's fair since my own comment only addressed half of the previous comment.
Ah, I was so fixated on the "pasta" joke, you're right, I missed the other thing! Yeah, I can understand you missing that auto scroll feature.
From what I can tell, it doesn't come as easily as it should natively across all applications, although it appears Firefox has this functionality built in. I found a forum post here from not too long ago. Does this help in your case? :)
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=263528
Edit:
And here, some folks are discussing a scripty way to do it system-wide. YMMV it sounds like, and I'm honestly surprised this isn't just a tick-box feature by now.
That second link looks promising, it's more recent than last time I looked into it. Thank you.
Also, I've been doing the pasta joke for so long that I forget it's a bit. "paste" gets autocorrected in my brain to be "pasta".
Then change the keyboard shortcuts of your terminal so that it does that. If you can't, then switch to a terminal that lets you change the keyboard shortcuts.
Has someone not made this a thing for the terminal?
What Ctrl+Shift+(do a little spin)+Ins isn't intuitive enough for you??
Jokes aside, that's understandable. I guess I've just become used to it, but there must be some way to override the default binding if you don't like it... Personally I like the kitty terminal's approach which uses mod+c/v for copy and paste in the terminal like you'd expect, while still leaving ctrl+c/v for sigint and verbatim respectively.
I'd use the terminal more if it had better auto suggestions, and allowed me to treat the text like any normal text editor, instead of having to learn keyboard shortcuts just to basic text manipulation. So far Warp terminal is the best option I've found
i like leaving top on all day just to watch it.
you've seen top, get ready for btop
i'm definitely ready to btop
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