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[-] cacheson@kbin.social 140 points 1 year ago

So I was just looking through literature.cafe a bit, and came across this excellent comment chain by Janvier. It outlines the history and culture of Hexbear, and makes a very solid argument for defederating them.

TL;DR- Don't defederate Hexbear because they're a bunch of genocide-apologist authoritarians. Defederate them because they're annoying, and will burn out your moderators.

[-] relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 year ago

Personally I think it’s an extremely toxic community that represents the worst of the internet. They’re extremely set in their ways and provide no meaningful content or discussions on the platform. That’s totally fine for them but they can do whatever they want in their own safe space.

I would prefer them to be defederated mostly because I can’t block an entire instance.

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[-] Mr_Buscemi 102 points 1 year ago

Sucks for you guys. They caused nothing but trouble when they were still federated with Blahaj.

After so many of us complained about how they were being dicks and many on the instance weren't feeling comfortable, hexbear decided to defederate from us first since they somehow said it wasn't safe for their LGBT members to be on it.

Funny enough a few days later a new account started posting across different lemmy instances for days about how the Blahaj instance was anti trans and that the admin was too. Our Admin is openly trans :/

The whole argument started because the user said everything had to be political and wouldn't stop insulting others who said they didn't want to have every post on Blahaj to turn political.

It was just too perfect timing how a few days after hexbear defedarated for somehow saying the pro LGBT instance was anti-LGBT, that we got a brand new account attacking trans members while sayin they were anti-trans.

Enjoy your new people.

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I don't mind the general hexbear ideology in itself. Sure. You do you.

But, damn, I see more than a few of its members just being obnoxious.

[-] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

It’d be lovely if you could just see the hexbear powerusers somewhere convenient and mass block. I went through a couple subreddits of theirs, found the top posts, blocked everyone with more than 50 upvotes. Real pain in the ass, but I suddenly have far fewer teenagers who peaked in middle school debate club to deal with.

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[-] narp@feddit.de 56 points 1 year ago

Opinion of one of the admins regarding hexbear, just so you guys know where they stand:

In my view, the hexbear community is actually a positive force on this platform. They are frequently abrasive, but they ultimately have the potential to contribute to what we are building here. They are extremely active and some of them are quite intelligent. But they've also become accustomed to a privileged position on their own walled-in platform, and they need to be reminded that their views are considered ver extreme by the average person.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

Which admin specifically please?

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[-] bzz@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty disappointing that @iamaqtpie is active on hexbear and says things like:

Please direct any seething that you may wish to do to the struggle session that’s well underway over here.

which reddit considered hate speech 🙄

Also disappointing that hexbear gets to vote federation, while we are left to federate to hexbear without a choice because the admins like the instance. Lame.

It's clear that sh.itjust.works does not care to get community support in it's decision making and we are left at the whims of the admins preferences. Isn't this why most of us left Reddit? Because community say didn't mean anything?

[-] bzz1@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

LMAO I got banned for this post

No reason given. Just "mod Banned"

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[-] mycorrhiza@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

which reddit considered hate speech 🙄

here's the whole quote, emphasis mine:

Hexbear is a Lemmy server that was created about 3 years ago as a new home for the former users of r/chapotraphouse. CTH was banned from reddit because they were openly calling for the deaths of slave owners, which reddit considered hate speech 🙄

Why would you take this out of context, and what is your issue with the whole quote?

[-] bzz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The quote was to establish that the admins personal feelings are involved about the instance.

It is an objective fact that the sub was banned on Reddit for hate speech. The rolling eyes emoji establishes the admins personal feelings on the subject.

Whether the ban is justified or not is irrelevant to my point that SJW does not care to understand what its user base may want.

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[-] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 year ago

Lol I blocked the most annoying posters from hexbear on this thread and now there's hardly any comments. I think we should put them in time out. Like defederate for 15 days. if they keep brigading, another 15 days. I don't really want to defederate, but I hate this kind of brigading.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

No. They won't get better.

Defederate now permanently.

[-] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

I'm going to follow your suit and fill up my block list. I can't take this anymore

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[-] wtvr@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago

This is such bullshit. Just saw the announcement that we aren't going to defederate from hexbear. Why weren't we given a say in this?

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They added us to their whitelist.

[-] jacaw@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago

Thank you for being one of only two people in this thread that actually answered the question.

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[-] misk@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What the actual fuck is wrong with admins of SJW?

Please direct any seething that you may wish to do to the struggle session that's well underway over here.

Thought this instance puts things to vote so yeah, duck you too, goodbye.

[-] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

Yeah, garbage post. I expect we'll see discussion/vote for defederation soon, though. I'd like to hear from TheDude as his stance made a lot more sense when we were defederating from exploding-heads.

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[-] Kes 32 points 1 year ago

They're abrasive enough that they couldn't even get along with lemmy.blahaj.zone, a dedicated LGBT friendly instance ran by several trans women, out of accusations of said admins being transphobic

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[-] TheThirdAccount@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

OK, first time I've seen the dread Hexbear brigading in action. So, thanks, I guess?

Now I understand why they warrant defederation. I'm glad on on a Lemmy instance that defederated them, and suppose I'l have to find a kbin instance that does as well (apparently this one doesn't defederate them if I'm reading this correctly?)

The irony is that, although I've been in the fediverse a while, today I literally made my first kbin account.

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[-] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

What the hell is hexbear? This is like the 3rd time I've seen it mentioned today

[-] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 54 points 1 year ago

Rowdy and very active left-leaning instance which recently rejoined the rest of lemmy. They tend to be very vocal in calling out racism, sexism, homophobia and other forms of bigotry, which has made certain users very angry. On the other hand, some of them seem to be very tolerant of certain authoritarian countries, which makes a certain other group of users very uncomfortable.

[-] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 year ago

Left leaning? Every post I saw from them before finally filtering the instance was heavily right leaning and filled with everything you just claimed they are against.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The left right thing sometimes feel more like a circle and if center was at one end of the circle then tankies and the alt-right would be at the other end pretty to close to one another. They both want to own the people that are closer to center, they both have a love affair with Russia, they both deny genocides, they both believe in authoritarianism...

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[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 44 points 1 year ago

It's where the far right go to play dress up as LGBT and call everyone else a nazi/be ruzzian apologists and blame the failings of the communist ecosphere on white western liberals.

It's basically the opposite of a sincere environment.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 22 points 1 year ago

Yes it should be renamed to ConcernTrolling101

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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 year ago

Is there a straightforward way to go through and block all communities on hexbear? I browse All but would like to avoid accidentally commenting on any of their posts.

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Calling this present thread a "struggle session" is dismissive at best if not downright insulting and I expect better from our mod team.

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[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

I appear to be out of the loop. What's wrong with hexbear? I'm not familiar with the instance.

[-] UnknownQuantity@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago

They're just an annoying bunch of wannabe communists who sound incredibly smug and post a ton of stickers in comments. Having said that I've moved to lemm.ee when lemmy.world defeterated from hexbear.

[-] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you're familiar with CTH and the dirtbag left, Hexbear is where they went after being banned by Reddit.

For what it is when lemm.ee considered de-federated from them they flooded the instance turning a 200 comment thread into 1200. And lots of harassment. Edit: In case you wanted to read that clusterbomb of a thread: https://lemm.ee/post/4543536

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lots of tankies from what I'm seeing, they're the "alt-left" if you will, they believe in just as much weird stuff as the alt-right but are on the left side of the spectrum... Heck they end up meeting on many things...

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